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PostSubject: Miracle Grow Water Snake Tank   3/2/2010, 3:30 am


I felt my old Slithering Waters Post was getting a bit congested so I thought I start anew with a perspective look at the latest developments. Just in case anyone wanted the background story on how it got where it is, here's the link to the original post on this forum
http://scorpionforum.darkbb.com/herps-and-amphibians-f36/slithering-waters-t2025.htm
First, a look at what the fuss is about

What first appears to be a laboriously planted semi-aquatic vivarium, I assure you is nothing of the sort; though the journey to here is no less laborious.

No plant-matter was actually planted onto the wood by hand at all. This result is nothing short of a dream come true; at least it truly was through my experience.

It pains me deeply to attribute the achievement of this 'beauty' to little more than incidental luck simply because I'm quite certain that many hobbyist have not arrived at these results without immeasurable strife and toil which still did not guarantee the desired end result.

Therefore I shall attempt to share with you by explaining in grave but condensed detail how I managed this. I cannot however, guarantee that what you see here is at all replicable even by myself should you attempt to trace my steps. This was truly a result of trial by fire and consequential error.


Basics Stats:
3ft x 1.5ft x 1.5ft Aquarium with Custom Carpentered Lid
Semi-Aquatic setup; Fine Gravel+Aquarium Sand Substrate

Broken Ceramic Pots and Assorted Driftwood pieces assembled to extend 'dry' surface area;

Submerged Internal Filter with overhanging outlet to drip or fountain head

Extensive History of Attempts to Incorporate Live Aquatic Plants; Live Plant Catered Aquarium Lighting; Initially regular and Arduous water changes on a weekly to a monthly basis.


Two (orignally 3) co-habitable Asian Water Snake species from the Homalopsinae sub-family of colubrids (back-fanged; mildly venomous; non-toxic to humans without hypo-allergic sensetivities)


Enhydris plubea (Yellow-Bellied/Olive Water Snake) 2 surviving specimens from a total of 4


Homalopsis bucatta (Masked/Puff-Faced Water Snake) 1 surviving specimen from a total of 3


Enhydris enhydris (Rainbow Water Snake) previously included; no surviving specimens of 5


At one point a total of 9 snakes (3 of each species) marked the stretched accommodated limit of this size enclosure (Mind you not intentional; I had snakes just dropping in from friends and herping trips)


Various Feeder fish varieties were replenished as stocks were effectively eaten.

Glass/Ghost Shrimp were spored to breakdown detritus for plant-life absorption; Live Bacterial Culture added on various occasions


Severe re-occurring White-Spot Fungus parasite contracted from wild-caught non-quarantined snakes and/or infected feeder fish has been effectively subdued into remission via extensive and pervasive chemical treatment over an extended period of time; hence the ocean blue hue to the water in some pics (I know how some may feel about chemicals but I had no alternatives available to me).


Occasionally I noticed that green moss would take root on this particular driftwood whenever the drizzle made frequent contact with it to which I adhered no pretentious expectations. Overtime, through my peripheral labors I noticed that this sprouted through no will of my own


I was actually wondering how long it will prevail and it eventually withered out but in its place, this miraculaously grew


I pressed some wads of forest moss by the driftwood against the glass in hopes that it will provide more ample basking spots for the snakes.


Uncannily, the decaying matter which I initially feared would foul the water actually provided nutrients for healthy vegetation.
Additionally, at some point, I had discarded the fountain head for a more direct trickle flow which touched the initial moss-prone driftwood.


Ultimately, a re-utilized light from another defunct planted tank sparked the sudden mass explosion of life. Since this, no major water change is apparently necessary. I only need to add fresh water that has been loss through evaporation


My 'methods' or rather unintentional courses of action have not come without steep price; and some may perceive my resolves 'brutal' and relentless.


Many of the snakes I loss to the disease were individuals I could pick out from a mixed bag, each one I grew unerringly fond of, and grieved their passing not unlike one would a canine or feline companion; despite the fact on one occasion, one of them clamped down on my fish-smelling index finger without relent.


I had to gently pry the jaws open, and extract a half-inch long fang out from my flesh. I don't recall toxic effects from the bite; which left me with no loss of adoration for them.


I guess what urged me to persevere in spite of the numerous complications I endured in the keeping of this tank; is nothing more than a picture in my head that I dreamed up as a young boy.

To be in awe of their grace as they float effortlessly, like mythical dragons of the deep.
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As I mentioned before, I had no manuals, no references, or precedence of examples save a picture in my head.
The only thing that provided sufficient guidance and help was one singe website: www.acrochordus.com or alternatively www.homalopsinae.com. Nothing else came close to anything similar to what I had intention of mind. My time with these snakes has been nothing short of dream come true, and some...

From this experience, I gained certainty that whatever it is you envisioned in life, no matter how trivial or seemingly unimportant, or perversely absurd as the tantalizing sight of slithering waters is without a doubt... nothing short of achievable.

I sincerely hope you have taken more from this than I ever will....
Cheers...

By the way Among the snakes that have persisted through it all, is the very first water snake I ever acquired as a neonate; my little Enhydris plumbea - Lucifer. All things of beauty that have come to pass like us will never last. But, I consider myself fortunate to have held them, while they... "we" are here.
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PostSubject: Re: Miracle Grow Water Snake Tank   3/2/2010, 4:33 am

thats inspiring
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PostSubject: Re: Miracle Grow Water Snake Tank   3/2/2010, 2:17 pm

ok i like snakes, but for some reason, water snakes freak me out...
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PostSubject: Re: Miracle Grow Water Snake Tank   3/2/2010, 4:53 pm

the lycan mikey wrote:
ok i like snakes, but for some reason, water snakes freak me out...

I believe you refer to the Nerodia water snakes you tend to find in the States. They are more affiliated with the Natricinae sub-family which includes garter snakes and European gras snakes. In Malaysia we also Nerodia representatives and I can understand your trepidation with them. They're more flighty and aggressive. The Homalopsines are a completely different experience. They have to be the most gentle snakes I've ever handled; an act I don't really do with these because they clearly feel uncomfortable about it, but they will hardly ever try to bite in reaction to this... just don't offer it your finger.... cos with any wild animal (even scorpions).... that's just not smart! lol

My puff-face only bit me cos had to pull him free from a tug of war with another that was getting out of hand; and because my hand had fish scent on it.... Chomp.

I chose these species because of the do live side by side in various Southeast Asian river systems and lakes. I really would like to construct a huge exhibit one day that will bring together all the Homalopsines in an enclosure that will perfectly simulate the riverbank/braackish water/mangrove environment they naturally occur in.
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PostSubject: Re: Miracle Grow Water Snake Tank   3/2/2010, 5:36 pm

lol the aggressiveness is part of the reason...
that and i just dont like any animal that swims faster than me
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PostSubject: Re: Miracle Grow Water Snake Tank   3/3/2010, 4:07 am

well anything, that lives in the water is faster than us land-lubbers, be it crocodile, shark or 8ft of Humboldt squid....

the water is not our domain, as good as we think we can swim... and we all should bear that in mind for all our human undertakings on this planet... laed, air or sea

we are centuries due for a rent bill that we won't be able to pay off before we are evicted by inevitable extinction.

but if we just take a little effort to appreciate the right of other species to live with us on this planet... there is hope for the decrepit human race yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Miracle Grow Water Snake Tank   3/3/2010, 4:10 am

oh im not scared of gators...as long as i can stand up in the water anyways...
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PostSubject: Re: Miracle Grow Water Snake Tank   3/3/2010, 6:03 pm

Wow that is awesome you make me want to start another snake tank. I had a 55 and some water snakes I picked up while camping. One of them had babies I ended up with 19 snakes in total. Man the babies were super cute. I let them go in a ditch near my house coz my gurl was freakin out
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PostSubject: Re: Miracle Grow Water Snake Tank   3/3/2010, 8:24 pm

you caught them?
like in your hand caught them?

i was assuming you'd have to trap them...
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PostSubject: Re: Miracle Grow Water Snake Tank   3/7/2010, 12:05 pm

Thats great Sithis, I wonder what I can do to trigger breeding in mine... not sure if I need to simulate tide levels or provide some kind of substrate plateau for the births....
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PostSubject: Re: Miracle Grow Water Snake Tank   3/24/2010, 6:19 pm

Latest Update on Incidental Vegetation in my Homalopsine vivarium



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PostSubject: Re: Miracle Grow Water Snake Tank   3/25/2010, 2:11 am

Impressive plant growth!
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PostSubject: Re: Miracle Grow Water Snake Tank   5/7/2010, 1:20 am

pick some off once it becomes "too much" and try transplanting into new vivariums.
it would be cool to develop a "technique" to acquire such a beautiful tank.





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PostSubject: Re: Miracle Grow Water Snake Tank   8/19/2010, 1:30 pm

hey there, im new here...and beginner to snakes too...I like your tank very much, impressive!

I just set up my water snakes tank yesterday...here are some of the pictures ...wonder how to take nice pictures like you did. The snakes came yesterday, but always hiding











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PostSubject: Re: Miracle Grow Water Snake Tank   8/23/2010, 12:46 am

Good job man!!!! I use a Canon Digital with Macro capabilities... that's pretty much it... I'm no professional photographer so those shots i get are 90%luck

P.S. You should keep the pump head fully submerged since they tend to get hot and melt through the casing.
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PostSubject: Re: Miracle Grow Water Snake Tank   8/23/2010, 5:12 am

I use my Nokia N97 to take these pics...quality not so good huh.

Ya, that's very good advise. Will submerge the pump head into water when i get back to KL (currently away from the town). I found the pump overheat easily.

I took them home last week, Rainbow seems like a good eater, eating non-stop. And keep exploring the tank during the 1st 2 days.

Puff face stays quiet all the time. By the way, my puff face eyes look cloudy...like cover by white layer. Is this normal? Coz it looks different from the picture of your puff face.
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PostSubject: Re: Miracle Grow Water Snake Tank   8/26/2010, 3:52 pm

Cloudy eyes, indicates an imminent skin-shed. the eyes will clear and then the snake will molt shortly after that... no worries...

nokia N97 seems to be doing a fine job. but any digital camera is a lot more fun!

The behavior you depicted is typical between the two species... try and get a plumbeous.... they are really lovely snakes... and super hardy! my first and still my favorite...
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PostSubject: Re: Miracle Grow Water Snake Tank   8/27/2010, 4:04 am

Bro, u r rite. Found the skin in the tank, dunno when the snake molt. now Puff face eyes look clear and shiny.

Bought 10 fishes yesterday, Rainbow finished half of them. Puff face keep hiding at the back of driftwood, while Rainbow swim here and there, even climb up to the tank cover, rest on the edge.

Wanted to get a Plumbeous too, dunno where to get. :p

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PostSubject: Re: Miracle Grow Water Snake Tank   10/11/2010, 6:01 am

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