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jcopela3 Hadogenes

Number of posts: 55 Age: 25 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Registration date: 2009-01-22
 | Subject: coco fiber as substrate Tue 2 Feb 2010 - 18:01 | |
| is dried coco fiber a good substrate for a hadrurus spadix? also my spadix is roaming around its tank but really isnt digging any burrows...i just got him four days ago and im sure its just the new home exploration right? |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator

Number of posts: 7741 Age: 26 Location: PNW Registration date: 2008-02-06
 | Subject: Re: coco fiber as substrate Tue 2 Feb 2010 - 20:14 | |
| It's not the best, 'cause it doesn't hold up burrows very well, but it works.
They'll try to burrow despite this, so yeah, it's probably still settling in. _________________ If your emperor scorpion stops eating, don't panic. | My reviews | My Bug Pictures | My blog Be nice -- you were a noob once, too "Never ask an engineer to explain something, because he will." |
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jcopela3 Hadogenes

Number of posts: 55 Age: 25 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Registration date: 2009-01-22
 | Subject: Re: coco fiber as substrate Tue 2 Feb 2010 - 20:16 | |
| do desert hairy's typically have more energy and eat more than say emps? |
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binksyboy3 Androctonus

Number of posts: 1691 Age: 18 Location: Hertfordshire, England Registration date: 2009-03-05
 | Subject: Re: coco fiber as substrate Tue 2 Feb 2010 - 22:18 | |
| Not sure about eating more, but they are certainly much more active. |
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Nomadinexile Centruroides

Number of posts: 103 Age: 34 Location: California, travelling Registration date: 2010-01-04
 | Subject: Re: coco fiber as substrate Tue 2 Feb 2010 - 23:59 | |
| if you can mix it 50/50 with sand, you should have a great sub. If you can moisten it, smush it, then let it dry, you will have a nice hard pack for them to burrow in. They are kick metasoma scorpions. Enjoy it! |
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anemiaffx Tityus

Number of posts: 641 Age: 19 Location: Sacramento CA Registration date: 2010-01-25
 | Subject: Re: coco fiber as substrate Wed 3 Feb 2010 - 21:20 | |
| If you do as they say and mix it with some sand and some coco fibers, try just pouring like half of a 2 liter bottle of water into it and mix it in. that way its moist and keeps the humidity up. |
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Nomadinexile Centruroides

Number of posts: 103 Age: 34 Location: California, travelling Registration date: 2010-01-04
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Mr. Mordax Administrator

Number of posts: 7741 Age: 26 Location: PNW Registration date: 2008-02-06
 | Subject: Re: coco fiber as substrate Wed 3 Feb 2010 - 21:40 | |
| If you pour water on the mixture and pack it down, THEN let it dry out, THEN introduce the scorpion -- water-soluble minerals dissolve and recrystallize and as such help hold the substrate together better, thus supporting burrows better. The key step is letting it dry out for Hadrurus.  _________________ If your emperor scorpion stops eating, don't panic. | My reviews | My Bug Pictures | My blog Be nice -- you were a noob once, too "Never ask an engineer to explain something, because he will." |
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binksyboy3 Androctonus

Number of posts: 1691 Age: 18 Location: Hertfordshire, England Registration date: 2009-03-05
 | Subject: Re: coco fiber as substrate Wed 3 Feb 2010 - 22:35 | |
| | anemiaffx wrote: | | try just pouring like half of a 2 liter bottle of water into it and mix it in. that way its moist and keeps the humidity up. |
This species and genus for that matter, need very little humidity. |
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anemiaffx Tityus

Number of posts: 641 Age: 19 Location: Sacramento CA Registration date: 2010-01-25
 | Subject: Re: coco fiber as substrate Wed 3 Feb 2010 - 23:57 | |
| oh my bad i was just replying to something he was asking at the very top. make it a bit more stable for digging of the holes as he was asking for. |
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Nomadinexile Centruroides

Number of posts: 103 Age: 34 Location: California, travelling Registration date: 2010-01-04
 | Subject: Re: coco fiber as substrate Thu 4 Feb 2010 - 9:02 | |
| | anemiaffx wrote: | | oh my bad i was just replying to something he was asking at the very top. make it a bit more stable for digging of the holes as he was asking for. |
Oh, I see. As the admin also posted, you can wet the whole shebang up, Push it down hard with your hands, then Let that Dry THOROUGHLY. It's deceiving so be careful. It will take days to dry like that. It's a great idea, if you are willing to let it dry all the way. Some people have issues doing this though. Especially if there is clay in the mix too I think. I've heard of sub packs becoming bricks that couldn't even get taken out of the aquarium! have fun. |
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jcopela3 Hadogenes

Number of posts: 55 Age: 25 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Registration date: 2009-01-22
 | Subject: Re: coco fiber as substrate Thu 4 Feb 2010 - 19:26 | |
| thanks for all the suggestions...now i understand that mycosis as well as a lot of things can kill a spadix but i was told from the breeder that they are as hardy as they come...In addition how often do u feed a spadix? |
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Nomadinexile Centruroides

Number of posts: 103 Age: 34 Location: California, travelling Registration date: 2010-01-04
 | Subject: Re: coco fiber as substrate Thu 4 Feb 2010 - 19:48 | |
| | jcopela3 wrote: | | thanks for all the suggestions...now i understand that mycosis as well as a lot of things can kill a spadix but i was told from the breeder that they are as hardy as they come...In addition how often do u feed a spadix? |
Depends on how big your feeders are, what instar or if it's an adult, your temps, it's mood, etc.
I generally feed instars every 2 or 3 days. Adults usually once a week. But it's relative. Use your judgement. You don't want them skinny, instars are growing. Adult females could be gravid and getting big needing extra food too. But, in the wild, they don't always have food falling from the sky. So don't be surprised if it stops eating for a while, or doesn't eat until it looks like a sausage. They are much skinnier in nature than in captivity usually. I try to find a middle road. Where they are fed regularly and can grow to their potential, without them becoming too big and unhealthy. But some people just feed them all they will eat and that works for them. There is no rule book for this one.  |
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binksyboy3 Androctonus

Number of posts: 1691 Age: 18 Location: Hertfordshire, England Registration date: 2009-03-05
 | Subject: Re: coco fiber as substrate Thu 4 Feb 2010 - 23:18 | |
| ^ Well said  |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator

Number of posts: 7741 Age: 26 Location: PNW Registration date: 2008-02-06
 | Subject: Re: coco fiber as substrate Fri 5 Feb 2010 - 22:12 | |
| Hadrurus are pretty hardy; just keep it dry and on the warm side. | Nomadinexile wrote: | | Especially if there is clay in the mix too I think. I've heard of sub packs becoming bricks that couldn't even get taken out of the aquarium! |
If you add clay, bring it up to about 30%. It supports burrows wonderfully but is still soft enough for the scorpion to dig or for you to clean out the tank later. _________________ If your emperor scorpion stops eating, don't panic. | My reviews | My Bug Pictures | My blog Be nice -- you were a noob once, too "Never ask an engineer to explain something, because he will." |
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