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PostSubject: To any one who knows about birds. esp. british   To any one who knows about birds. esp. british Empty8/12/2009, 8:29 pm

Family has been thinking about adopting an imprinted on, injured flightless crow. Corvus corone.
I know all about them, that they need toys, and how intelligent, etc.
and what to feed.



But is it really a good idea? wont specifically be my pet.
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PostSubject: Re: To any one who knows about birds. esp. british   To any one who knows about birds. esp. british Empty8/12/2009, 9:43 pm

A flightless crow? Never heard of that as a pet before, better than a hamster i guess lol, go for it! Lemme know how it works out, i used to have a budgiee thats about as close as i can relate, but go for it!
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PostSubject: Re: To any one who knows about birds. esp. british   To any one who knows about birds. esp. british Empty8/12/2009, 11:49 pm

I would adopt one in a heartbeat. While they can't talk, crows are EXTREMELY intellegent. I love them.
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PostSubject: Re: To any one who knows about birds. esp. british   To any one who knows about birds. esp. british Empty8/13/2009, 4:09 am

Will it never fly again? This wild bird?
I think the idea of loving and caring for it is nice but...wont it feel...depressed that its in a cage, this wild bird that is injured?
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PostSubject: Re: To any one who knows about birds. esp. british   To any one who knows about birds. esp. british Empty8/13/2009, 4:21 am

I have nursed a few carrion crows back to health I love the lil guys
but if you do adopt keep in mind they want attention allot, and can behave quite badly if they want to
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PostSubject: Re: To any one who knows about birds. esp. british   To any one who knows about birds. esp. british Empty8/13/2009, 4:28 am

Aye.
Lycanlord, do they sleep a lot? or are they awake a lot?



They need a lot of toys to keep em occupied dont they?
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the ones I had around were awake most of the time, and when they do sleep they are still on high alert the slightest movement and there away and being noisy lol.
Because there intelligent they really like to be kept busy learning things or playing etc etc
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PostSubject: Re: To any one who knows about birds. esp. british   To any one who knows about birds. esp. british Empty8/13/2009, 10:53 am

Go for it if you can give it an outdoor aviary. Lots of room should make it feel less "caged in."

And crows can talk, though not as much as some birds.
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Sounds like it could be very intresting, will it be expensive to keep and look after do you know?
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I dont know thats nwhy i started a topic.


Well i can give it undivided attention from 9pm-5am, and im sure it could keep my mum or sister company during the day haha
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With my budgiee i used to always let it out round my room, used to love sitting on my curtain rail, but i guess this crow wont be doing much flying if its flightless, but yeah should be intresting, im pretty sure they can move fast on foot cant they? Watch him/her, might be a sneaky one lol
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Mr. Mordax wrote:
Go for it if you can give it an outdoor aviary. Lots of room should make it feel less "caged in."

And crows can talk, though not as much as some birds.
An aviary might not be a great Idea as by the sounds of it this bird cant fly, So large open spaces could cause extra stress, plus they can climb pretty well so if it climbed to the top of the aviary and then fell it could hurt itself as it cant fly lol
I reckon It would probably do much better on a low perch in a house and able to roam around the house relatively freely.

I love crows they are so smart, cant say I have ever heard one speak though mike lol have you seen a video of it on youtube? I cant see why they wouldn't be able to, not as good as parrots though obviously
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Yes very fast on foot even when injured, i remember making the mistake of not properly shooting one and having to run over 3 miles to catch it.


Yeah they can mimic but not as well as parrots of indeed ravens. i doubt therell be a youtube vid. they can also work out complex puzzles, ive seen them putting stones into a narrow cup of water to raise the water level so they can freely drink, incredibly clever animals.
Some of the corvidae family are proported to fashion and use their own tools, which so far only humans and primates have been recorded as doing.
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PostSubject: Re: To any one who knows about birds. esp. british   To any one who knows about birds. esp. british Empty8/13/2009, 10:35 pm

There's a few videos . . . but I've only seen one of a raven, and his name was Terry. He spoke with a British accent. awesome

Not the best, but he says "hello" a few times:


"I wanna FLY!"


This one's pretty good:


Here's one of a raven (not Terry, found a new one) -- he has kind of a creepy voice:


(By the way, sorting through these videos REALLY confused my cats Razz)
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Thats kool lol
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lol, the first one was funny. it's amazing how smart they are.
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Thats mad lol, that one where he goes "I WANNA FLY FLY!" i was like whatttttttttttt lol
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PostSubject: Re: To any one who knows about birds. esp. british   To any one who knows about birds. esp. british Empty9/16/2009, 8:55 am

i wouldn't adopt it TBH as it was not imprinted on you so may be quite aggressive and could do a lot of damage. corvids are some of the smartest birds in the world and easily learn tricks. a main diet would be things like defrosted chicks and stuff like that. i may be getting a magpie next breeding season as i know someone who gets lots nesting in his area and shoots them because of their baby bird eating tendencies.. Evil or Very Mad (its how they survive... you eat more than they do... it ain't fair to kill em!) and often finds their nests with the orphaned chicks that have died or cold eggs... so i asked if i could come and have a look around to see if i could find any baby ones to take (so of course he thinks they are destined for the inside of a snake so he doesnt mind).
so my plan is to get a newly hatched one or an about to hatch egg and imprint on it and when its ready to fledge begin to fly it outside. after it has learnt to fly it can stay outside and i will feed it. lots of people have done this before, usually with magpies and crows that have fallen from the nest and it seems they always return to the person who reared them and follow them around...
even if it doesnt work its better than death!
http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=30716&highlight=ravens
this is a person who keeps ravens and teaches them tricks and stuff (which can be seen on page 9 second post from the bottom and some other parts that i couldnt find) this is a falconry forum so it isnt very corvid friendly usually as most Birds of prey love a juicy bit of crow now and again... but this post is quite interesting.
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