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PostSubject: My Smerigurus mesaensis is giving birth!   10/22/2009, 5:59 am

It's all happening for me in scorpion world!! WOOP!

99% sure it's giving birth as I type this! I have left her quietly, and given the tank a bit of a spray to make sure the babies dont dry out (I'll make sure it doesn't stay humid in the long run).

So pleased!

These babies are apparently hard to raise in captivity. If anyone has any tips, I'd be greatful. I have raised P. imp babies before but that's it. Specially about humidity... do I keep them dry, for the mother, or humid, to aid scorpling moulting?

I'll update with pictures later today Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: My Smerigurus mesaensis is giving birth!   10/22/2009, 6:39 am

I bought four scorplings 1 1/2 - 2 years ago when they was about one month old.
I lost two but the other two seems doing well.I have always kept them dry and I really mean dry.
Think I have add 2-3 drop of water 3-4 times in all the time i have had them.They get what they need from the prey,I think.
I heard about 6-7 years before they reach adulthood.Don't know if thats true but they are defently a slow growing sp.
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PostSubject: Re: My Smerigurus mesaensis is giving birth!   10/22/2009, 6:43 am

Sativa wrote:
I bought four scorplings 1 1/2 - 2 years ago when they was about one month old.
I lost two but the other two seems doing well.I have always kept them dry and I really mean dry.
Think I have add 2-3 drop of water 3-4 times in all the time i have had them.They get what they need from the prey,I think.
I heard about 6-7 years before they reach adulthood.Don't know if thats true but they are defently a slow growing sp.

Yeh, that's how I am keeping the adult, but I am worrying about the babies moulting? Specifically the crucial first couple of moults...
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PostSubject: Re: My Smerigurus mesaensis is giving birth!   10/22/2009, 6:58 am

The two I lost earlier was not cause of bad molting (dont know the reason to there death)
But lets see what some of the specialist here have to say.It cant be the first time someone gets babies from that sp.
BTW...Congratulation with your brood Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: My Smerigurus mesaensis is giving birth!   10/22/2009, 7:00 am

Sativa wrote:
The two I lost earlier was not because of bad moulting (dont know the reason to their death).
But let's see what some of the specialists here have to say. It can't be the first time someone gets babies from that sp.
BTW...Congratulation with your brood Very Happy

Ah ok, bummer Sad

And, thanks! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: My Smerigurus mesaensis is giving birth!   10/22/2009, 12:32 pm

Hard to see anything... but I don't think much progress has been made. Looks like 2-3 still curled up babies are under her, I can't see any (though, there might be) on her back yet. I don't want to disturb too much...

Cross my fingers!
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PostSubject: Re: My Smerigurus mesaensis is giving birth!   10/22/2009, 3:33 pm

I wish ya luck mate. Hopefully a nice big brood. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: My Smerigurus mesaensis is giving birth!   10/22/2009, 5:16 pm

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I wish ya luck mate. Hopefully a nice big brood. Very Happy

Thanks.

As it stands now, still not holding out *too* much hope. There are 4-5 babies, I think. Still curled up and not on her back...not sure if they're even still alive. She hasn't eaten them yet.

Anyone know how long it can take to give birth in total? My P. imp only took a few hours.
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PostSubject: Re: My Smerigurus mesaensis is giving birth!   10/22/2009, 9:18 pm

good luck with them hun
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PostSubject: Re: My Smerigurus mesaensis is giving birth!   10/22/2009, 9:25 pm

Best of luck with that mate!
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PostSubject: Re: My Smerigurus mesaensis is giving birth!   10/23/2009, 3:00 am

I think it just depends. My emp took over 24 hrs. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: My Smerigurus mesaensis is giving birth!   10/23/2009, 4:11 am

Well, still not looking great this morning. Same amount of babies, still all balled up, non on her back... not really sure what to do.
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PostSubject: Re: My Smerigurus mesaensis is giving birth!   10/23/2009, 11:04 am

So, it's been at least 36 hours now, and no babies on the back, and the babies seem dead to me. I have taken them and put them on moist tissue to see if they might be salvagable... but I doubt it. Female is aggressive, but otherwise showing no interest in the babies.

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Very dissappointed Sad
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PostSubject: Re: My Smerigurus mesaensis is giving birth!   10/23/2009, 11:28 am

oh dear that doesn't look promising, what a shame Sad
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PostSubject: Re: My Smerigurus mesaensis is giving birth!   10/23/2009, 11:52 am

LadyRiotControl wrote:
oh dear that doesn't look promising, what a shame Sad

I know! Sad I'll see if I can get her mated... I know someone nearby with an unsexed S. maesensis, might be a male...
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PostSubject: Re: My Smerigurus mesaensis is giving birth!   10/23/2009, 2:46 pm

real shame that. Sorry to hear mate. However, on the up side, it will make it even better when you breed a successful brood in the future.
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PostSubject: Re: My Smerigurus mesaensis is giving birth!   10/23/2009, 3:00 pm

binksyboy3 wrote:
real shame that. Sorry to hear mate. However, on the up side, it will make it even better when you breed a successful brood in the future.

Aye... true. I've raised emp babies once, but that's it so far Sad
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PostSubject: Re: My Smerigurus mesaensis is giving birth!   10/23/2009, 5:35 pm

Same, but i hope to breed other sp soon
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PostSubject: Re: My Smerigurus mesaensis is giving birth!   10/24/2009, 1:52 pm

Those would be stillborns. Sorry to hear.

The same thing happened with one of my V. spinigerus last year:



At least she ate them the next day so the protein didn't go to waste. :-/

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PostSubject: Re: My Smerigurus mesaensis is giving birth!   10/25/2009, 3:58 pm

Mr. Mordax wrote:
Those would be stillborns. Sorry to hear.

The same thing happened with one of my V. spinigerus last year:



At least she ate them the next day so the protein didn't go to waste. :-/

Bummer Sad Though, nice to have it confirmed, thanks Smile

I'll see if I can get her mated and we'll have another go in a years time or so Smile
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