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spit Pandinus
Number of posts: 15 Age: 41 Registration date: 2009-09-27
 | Subject: deathstalker or fat tail 9/27/2009, 5:42 am | |
| Hi all, Although I know they are both very dangerous,which would you say is the "safest" to keep from a keepers point of view? I was thinking...aggressiveness.....potency of venom.....willingness to bite.....etc. Thanks in advance. |
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Kejser Administrator

Number of posts: 1357 Age: 25 Location: Denmark Registration date: 2008-02-06
 | Subject: Re: deathstalker or fat tail 9/27/2009, 5:47 am | |
| Dont get stung.. how safe can it get?  _________________  |
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spit Pandinus
Number of posts: 15 Age: 41 Registration date: 2009-09-27
 | Subject: Re: deathstalker or fat tail 9/27/2009, 6:10 am | |
| you know what I mean. Spiders for instance..... There are some that are out and out aggressive and some that are not. Of course I don't want to get stung but anything is possible.One might be very aggressive.....one might have a better chance of killing you.....antivenin might be more available for one....... Paul |
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Kejser Administrator

Number of posts: 1357 Age: 25 Location: Denmark Registration date: 2008-02-06
 | Subject: Re: deathstalker or fat tail 9/27/2009, 6:15 am | |
| Well since most allegic reactions are caused by the anti venom it would be a bad idea to start having it yourself and try to give it your self, but we are talking scorpions here. They cant claim glass, cant move across a tank the same speed as Ts, easyer to like box up and move around and stuff.. its not like LQs will jump out of the tank flying at your neck.. _________________  |
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spit Pandinus
Number of posts: 15 Age: 41 Registration date: 2009-09-27
 | Subject: Re: deathstalker or fat tail 9/27/2009, 6:25 am | |
| | Kejser wrote: | | Well since most allegic reactions are caused by the anti venom it would be a bad idea to start having it yourself and try to give it your self, but we are talking scorpions here. They cant claim glass, cant move across a tank the same speed as Ts, easyer to like box up and move around and stuff.. its not like LQs will jump out of the tank flying at your neck.. |
so you ARE saying deathstalkers then ? Paul |
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binksyboy3 Androctonus

Number of posts: 1691 Age: 18 Location: Hertfordshire, England Registration date: 2009-03-05
 | Subject: Re: deathstalker or fat tail 9/27/2009, 6:52 am | |
| death stalkers (leirus quinqestriatus) are more aggressive but fat - tails (androctonus sp) much more deadly, potent. |
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spit Pandinus
Number of posts: 15 Age: 41 Registration date: 2009-09-27
 | Subject: Re: deathstalker or fat tail 9/27/2009, 7:01 am | |
| Thanks , That's all I needed to know Many people here keep fat tails ? Paul |
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Kejser Administrator

Number of posts: 1357 Age: 25 Location: Denmark Registration date: 2008-02-06
 | Subject: Re: deathstalker or fat tail 9/27/2009, 7:06 am | |
| | binksyboy3 wrote: | | death stalkers (leirus quinqestriatus) are more aggressive but fat - tails (androctonus sp) much more deadly, potent. |
Ehmmm potent meaning stronger venom ? fat-tails have a higher LD50 then LQs so LQs have stronger venom, fat tails aka Parabuthus / Androctonus can deliver more venom then a LQ can
but i didnt say that i would go for LQ, iam just saying that take in mind that you cant really compare scorpions with Ts, because they aint really the same. Both LQ and fat tails can be keept even by a novice keeper if he takes the right messurments when he opens the tank and stuff like that.. ppl are really overracting with scorpions._________________  |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator

Number of posts: 7741 Age: 26 Location: PNW Registration date: 2008-02-06
 | Subject: Re: deathstalker or fat tail 9/27/2009, 8:09 am | |
| If you have to ask these questions, odds are you aren't ready for the scorpions in question. _________________ If your emperor scorpion stops eating, don't panic. | My reviews | My Bug Pictures | My blog Be nice -- you were a noob once, too "Never ask an engineer to explain something, because he will." |
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spit Pandinus
Number of posts: 15 Age: 41 Registration date: 2009-09-27
 | Subject: Re: deathstalker or fat tail 9/27/2009, 8:22 am | |
| who said anything about getting the scorpions. I was just curious but if you run a forum where you can't even ask a question ....think I will try elsewhere..... I have... emperor scorpions,14 pokies,H.gigas,stout legged baboon,stright horned baboon,OBT,king baboon,sun tiger,salmon pink,.....as well as 2 adult bci's and an 8' macklots.....so I do know something.....not a complete newb. But again.....if I can't ask questions without getting a sarcastic reply back,from a mod of all people.......I will go elsewhere. I am a member of about 10 different forums and this is the first time sarcasm has ever come into herp care. Thanks for the help. |
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Kejser Administrator

Number of posts: 1357 Age: 25 Location: Denmark Registration date: 2008-02-06
 | Subject: Re: deathstalker or fat tail 9/27/2009, 9:16 am | |
| Spit the only reply i can see as sarcastic was my first reply and if your are a member of 10 differnt forums you should be able to take a few shots without going up in fire.
Your asking a question that makes it look like your thinking about getting one of these scorpions.
But if you dont like the advice you are giving here, you are more then welcome to stick to orther forums _________________  |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator

Number of posts: 7741 Age: 26 Location: PNW Registration date: 2008-02-06
 | Subject: Re: deathstalker or fat tail 9/27/2009, 9:28 am | |
| I wasn't being sarcastic.
When it boils down to it, one is just about as dangerous as the other.
And it sure sounded like you were interested in getting the scorpions in question, reading your first post. _________________ If your emperor scorpion stops eating, don't panic. | My reviews | My Bug Pictures | My blog Be nice -- you were a noob once, too "Never ask an engineer to explain something, because he will." |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator

Number of posts: 7741 Age: 26 Location: PNW Registration date: 2008-02-06
 | Subject: Re: deathstalker or fat tail 9/27/2009, 9:30 am | |
| By the way, I see from your IP address that you're located in the UK, so I'm sure you're aware that you can't own any Buthids without a DWA license. Or was this just for research for some other reason? Now I'm getting curious.  _________________ If your emperor scorpion stops eating, don't panic. | My reviews | My Bug Pictures | My blog Be nice -- you were a noob once, too "Never ask an engineer to explain something, because he will." |
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spit Pandinus
Number of posts: 15 Age: 41 Registration date: 2009-09-27
 | Subject: Re: deathstalker or fat tail 9/27/2009, 9:42 am | |
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bjaeger Leiurus

Number of posts: 2159 Age: 24 Location: Pennsylvania, US Registration date: 2008-04-29
 | Subject: Re: deathstalker or fat tail 9/27/2009, 10:05 am | |
| | binksyboy3 wrote: | | death stalkers (leirus quinqestriatus) are more aggressive but fat - tails (androctonus sp) much more deadly, potent. |
As I've mentioned a few times on these forums, my LQ's have NEVER showed ANY signs of aggression except right after feeding and right after molting. With that said, I don't think that they are a very aggressive species. Although mine are CB, WC specimens could be different. |
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