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scorpio_86
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PostSubject: Scorpion identification   Scorpion identification Empty9/14/2009, 2:24 pm

Hello friends... Can you tell me what specie are they?

1) first scorpion

https://redcdn.net/ihimizer/img196/1561/dscf0922u.jpg

https://redcdn.net/ihimizer/img171/6076/dscf1059x.jpg

https://redcdn.net/ihimizer/img197/5498/dscf1078p.jpg

https://redcdn.net/ihimizer/img269/740/dscf0913.jpg

2) second scorpion

https://redcdn.net/ihimizer/img39/6937/dscf0939y.jpg

https://redcdn.net/ihimizer/img4/2407/dscf1050p.jpg

https://redcdn.net/ihimizer/img29/7240/dscf1074d.jpg

https://redcdn.net/ihimizer/img2/6127/dscf1103j.jpg

I hope the photos go well ... Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion identification   Scorpion identification Empty9/14/2009, 2:47 pm

hi

erm the first looks like a pandius cav. tanzanian red claw


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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion identification   Scorpion identification Empty9/14/2009, 2:57 pm

First scorpion = Pandinus Viatoris or maybe Cavimanus
Second scorpion = Heterometrus Laoticus - I can tell from the lack of granulation on the carapace. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion identification   Scorpion identification Empty9/14/2009, 2:58 pm

'doh'

i got it wrong
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion identification   Scorpion identification Empty9/14/2009, 2:58 pm

gramps wrote:
and second looks like a emp (Y)

eeerm.. I dont think that's an emp lol
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion identification   Scorpion identification Empty9/14/2009, 3:00 pm

yes on reflection the claws are to slender Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion identification   Scorpion identification Empty9/14/2009, 3:00 pm

gramps wrote:
'doh'

i got it wrong

Ah well, part of the hobby isn't it. Learning more and gaining knowledge for the future.
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion identification   Scorpion identification Empty9/14/2009, 3:01 pm

You keep posting at the exact same time i do. lol Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion identification   Scorpion identification Empty9/14/2009, 3:01 pm

i noticed lol Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion identification   Scorpion identification Empty9/14/2009, 6:04 pm

first is a male P.Cavimanus, P.Viatoris lean more towards Exitialis with the coloring and telson shape.

second would be a female (probably, need a picture of the tail to be sure) H.Spinifer or ,like blinksy said, an H.Laoticus, I hate telling Heterometrus apart.
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion identification   Scorpion identification Empty9/14/2009, 9:06 pm

I said the first one was a P. cavimanus on another forum and everyone tried telling me it was some sort of Heterometrus sp.. tongue

For the second one, it's not H. laoticus -- there's distinct granulation in the second picture. I'd throw H. spinifer out there as a wild guess, but I'm only sure with a few species in that genus.

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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion identification   Scorpion identification Empty9/15/2009, 1:26 am

hmmmm, i don't see what else it could be.....
I'm pretty sure it is a laoticus, because although it has a couple tiny specs of granulation, if you have a look on the third pic there is none.. and the main distinction between heterometrus sp is the prosoma granulation.
Definately not spinifer
Definately not petersii
probably not longimanus

check out this page and then chek out page 2, they all think specimen 2 which looks trhe same as your one is laoticus too.
http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?t=82335
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion identification   Scorpion identification Empty9/15/2009, 2:24 am

I think you need to zoom in on the second pic, has the granulation of a H.Spinifer if that's what you're going off of.
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion identification   Scorpion identification Empty9/15/2009, 3:18 am

binksyboy3 wrote:
it has a couple tiny specs of granulation, if you have a look on the third pic there is none.

There is a very large patch of granulation in the second pic.

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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion identification   Scorpion identification Empty9/15/2009, 6:27 am

i know you like getting exact ID's on these kind of things (i didnt know there was something that looked like a p.cavi and wasnt and it is kinda confusing when it comes to heterometrus sp.)
but unless you plan to breed them or something all you need to know is how to keep them properly and there both forest species so humidity is important and i think cavimanus prefer it a little dryer than emps.
anyway i would say 1) cavimanus and 2) spinifer...
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion identification   Scorpion identification Empty9/15/2009, 7:30 am

Thank you for the answers Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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