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PostSubject: Newbie here..please help   8/21/2009, 11:16 am

i was wondering if someone could help me distinguish a juvenile flat rock scorpion from a juvenile bark scorpion. Any distinct features that i could compare it from each other?? because i bought a scorpion and they said it was a bark scorpion but from the looks of it, it looks like a flat rock scorpion. (comparison of pictures found on the internet)

Note: i don't know the age but the size is a bout an inch from head to the tip of the tail.
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here..please help   8/21/2009, 11:39 am

could you post pictures? that would help, it should be fairly obvious, although it does depend what species you mean by those common names
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here..please help   8/21/2009, 12:57 pm

Flat rocks (Hadogenes spp.) have very skinny tails. Bark scorpions (myriad of genera, "bark scorpion" is about as unspecific as "forest scorpion) typically have fairly average-looking tails.

Flatties also have fairly robust chela (pinchers) even at an early age and are grey. Barks are all in the Buthidae family and will usually have quite slender chela and are usually shades of brown, yellow, or orange.

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PostSubject: Scorp Pics   8/22/2009, 11:37 pm




it don't look like a bark scorpion to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here..please help   8/23/2009, 4:14 am

thats definitely not a bark scorpion of any sort, it looks like a baby (maybe 2i) hadogenes trolodytes.
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here..please help   8/23/2009, 6:13 am

Looks like liocheles sp. to me Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here..please help   8/23/2009, 11:25 am

looks like a young Hadogenes sp..
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here..please help   8/23/2009, 1:35 pm

Hadogenes and Liocheles look similar at that size . . . not sure which it is, and that's where it gets tricky, 'cause Hadogenes needs fairly dry conditions.

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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here..please help   8/24/2009, 7:48 am

at least now i am definitely sure that it's not a bark scorpion. the guy who told me this is a bark scorpion is an idiot. does anyone have any tips on how to care for a liocheles or hadogenes sp.?
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here..please help   8/24/2009, 9:05 am

Well, Hadogenes likes it extra dry on sandy substrate with flat pieces of rock to hide between. A little bit of moisture can be beneficial to younger instars.

I know nothing about the other genus, other than that it's a lot different than Hadogenes. If you can get a clearer / larger shot, someone may be able to help differentiate yours.

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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here..please help   8/25/2009, 8:44 am

thank you everyone for your help. i really appreciate it.
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PostSubject: Re: Newbie here..please help   8/25/2009, 4:03 pm

Liocheles are your typical warm and humid species.

I have a very nice old piece of cork bark with lots of holes in that crickets have gradually eaten away over the years. Seems to be perfect for my wee Liocheles Smile
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