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RyoKenzaki
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PostSubject: Is this Leiurus Quinquestriatus Hebreus?   5/29/2009, 10:25 am

My sweet LQ molted recently, at first i thought its dying cause it seems weak and walk like a drunkard as if he have dyskinetic syndrome
Here's some pic of it
Before...

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Hebreus?


At the size of around 3inch from end of the tail to carapace, can i said its a sub adult?

Finally, thanks for viewing, he showing us double peace sign
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Leiurus Quinquestriatus Hebreus?   6/1/2009, 11:11 am

Didnt know there were different subspecies of LQs, leanr something new in the hobby every day i suppose Very Happy excellent pics aswell RyoKenzaki gettin an LQ is what i aspire to in keeping scorps, obv itll be a few years when i have my own house and space to properly doublt cage one.
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PostSubject: Re: Is this Leiurus Quinquestriatus Hebreus?   7/21/2009, 6:40 pm

Wow, it has been a long time since I looked at OW Buthids.. But in his Saudi Arabia paper, I believe Hendrixson noted that he suspected L. q. hebreus was in fact a junior synonym of L. quinquestriatus, but did not officially synonymize it because either a lack of material or lack of type material (or both). If you want, I might be able to pull up the original description and Brent's work and see what what characters were being used to diagnose L. q. hebreus.

In conclusion, Hendrixson suggested that L. quinquestriatus was highly variable in terms of morphology and seemed to be of the opinion that L. q. hebreus was not a valid species. Again, this has not been done officially, due to the lack of type material.

In my opinion, what you have is L. quinquestriatus. Origin of geographically associated variants (if the morphology even is associated with geographical boundaries) is questionable and practically impossible to distinguish without locality data. Man, I would pay double for OW material that came with locality data! Ok....not rich enough to do that, but you get my point! : )

Thanks for sharing, this is an interesting species indeed.
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