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Mr. Mordax Administrator

Number of posts: 7741 Age: 26 Location: PNW Registration date: 2008-02-06
 | Subject: How to tell if it''s time to change your substrate 5/15/2009, 7:10 am | |
| Many newcomers to the hobby are unsure of how often to replace the substrate in their emperor scorpion tank. Many also panic when they see mold growth, thinking it's dangerous to the scorpions. So, two common questions are "when do I clean the tank?" and "is mold harmful?" I think this photo should answer both questions (click to show): | Spoiler: | | |  |
This tank is home to three perfectly healthy subadult emperors. The substrate was last changed around three years ago, when I first got into the hobby. The false-bottom was installed sixish months later, using the same substrate._________________ If your emperor scorpion stops eating, don't panic. | My reviews | My Bug Pictures | My blog Be nice -- you were a noob once, too "Never ask an engineer to explain something, because he will." |
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*Connie* Post-whore

Number of posts: 3705 Age: 28 Location: England Registration date: 2008-02-06
 | Subject: Re: How to tell if it's time to change your substrate 5/15/2009, 9:54 am | |
| I was wondering today actually if I should change my pandinus Imperator 4I substrate! they should be adults by now and have had yet another death! im now down to 4 out of 19...and im thinking is there something in the coco fibre! |
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bjaeger Leiurus

Number of posts: 2159 Age: 24 Location: Pennsylvania, US Registration date: 2008-04-29
 | Subject: Re: How to tell if it's time to change your substrate 5/15/2009, 12:02 pm | |
| Soooooo ... What you're saying is that the substrate should be changed when we start seeing mushroom-like objects growing on the surface?
I have a feeling I've wasted a good amount of substrate in the past year and a half. |
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Kejser Administrator

Number of posts: 1357 Age: 25 Location: Denmark Registration date: 2008-02-06
 | Subject: Re: How to tell if it's time to change your substrate 5/15/2009, 12:28 pm | |
| I have a couple of tanks that havent been changed since maj 07  works like a charm  _________________  |
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scorpion111 Post-whore

Number of posts: 3455 Age: 17 Location: scotland Registration date: 2008-04-07
 | Subject: Re: How to tell if it's time to change your substrate 5/15/2009, 2:27 pm | |
| holy ****!!! where did the blooms come from then? it actually looks quite nice lol I don't really change my substrate, it seems after a while the soil just establishes it's own little clean up crew and stuff doesn't go all mouldy. |
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SickOfYou Hadogenes
Number of posts: 83 Age: 26 Location: Washington UTAH Registration date: 2009-01-25
 | Subject: Re: How to tell if it's time to change your substrate 5/15/2009, 4:58 pm | |
| lol and i started thinkin I was bein a bad keeper by reusin the same substrate the closest to clean as it gets is me remodeling the setup and just stirrin it all up hah But I do remove leftovers from the crickets if I can get to it. I figure mold couldnt hurt them really its all over my hides and spreading across the tank. Unless it mutates from the radiation becoming bent on destroying all humans and hungry for world domination again! But that hasnt happend in years so its all good.. Although judging from that picture it looks as though it may be a second coming BEWARE THE FUNGUS AMONG US! |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator

Number of posts: 7741 Age: 26 Location: PNW Registration date: 2008-02-06
 | Subject: Re: How to tell if it's time to change your substrate 5/16/2009, 8:35 am | |
| Those aren't mushroom-like growths Brandon, those are the real deal! The spores are probably floating around just about everywhere, but the substrate was old enough that it had broken down to the point where some mycelia could feed on it and establish a system. I'd seen some yellow on the side of the tank, below the soil level, and didn't really worry much about it. Then the fruiting bodies developed. It would make a pretty cool setup to have mushrooms naturally growing in my tank, but the spores trigger allergies in some people (including Lori), so I cleaned it all out yesterday. For a while there it looked like something out of a Grateful Dead poster.  _________________ If your emperor scorpion stops eating, don't panic. | My reviews | My Bug Pictures | My blog Be nice -- you were a noob once, too "Never ask an engineer to explain something, because he will." |
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Unfamiliar Hadogenes

Number of posts: 76 Age: 24 Location: Essex, UK Registration date: 2009-01-14
 | Subject: Re: How to tell if it's time to change your substrate 5/16/2009, 9:14 am | |
| I've always worried about mold since one of my emps appeared to have mold growing on it.
I worry at the slightest white blob in the soil...
But now I know what to.
Despite that i've always realised its stupid, as in the natural they obviously don't live in mold-free environments. |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator

Number of posts: 7741 Age: 26 Location: PNW Registration date: 2008-02-06
 | Subject: Re: How to tell if it's time to change your substrate 5/16/2009, 9:31 am | |
| Yeah, there's probably plenty of mushrooms growing in Ghanaian forests. _________________ If your emperor scorpion stops eating, don't panic. | My reviews | My Bug Pictures | My blog Be nice -- you were a noob once, too "Never ask an engineer to explain something, because he will." |
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binksyboy3 Androctonus

Number of posts: 1691 Age: 18 Location: Hertfordshire, England Registration date: 2009-03-05
 | Subject: Re: How to tell if it's time to change your substrate 5/16/2009, 9:46 am | |
| Yeah, but won't the methane being released have an effect seeing as they are trapped in a tank. Whereas in the wild they are in the open and so it doesn't affect them? |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator

Number of posts: 7741 Age: 26 Location: PNW Registration date: 2008-02-06
 | Subject: Re: How to tell if it's time to change your substrate 5/16/2009, 10:08 am | |
| Since when do mushrooms release methane? And unless you have your tank sealed, a lot of air can exchange by diffusion. _________________ If your emperor scorpion stops eating, don't panic. | My reviews | My Bug Pictures | My blog Be nice -- you were a noob once, too "Never ask an engineer to explain something, because he will." |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator

Number of posts: 7741 Age: 26 Location: PNW Registration date: 2008-02-06
 | Subject: Re: How to tell if it's time to change your substrate 5/16/2009, 10:22 am | |
| Update: did a bit of research, and IDed it as Leucocoprinus birnbaumii, also known as the yellow houseplant mushroom. Originally tropical, then spread worldwide through potting soils as it doesn't have a host tree association.
Inedible, reportedly poisonous (my research suggests the most it does is give you bad indigestion), otherwise harmless. Very common in potted plants and greenhouses. Polysaccharides extracted from the mycelia have shown to inhibit tumor growth in lab mice. _________________ If your emperor scorpion stops eating, don't panic. | My reviews | My Bug Pictures | My blog Be nice -- you were a noob once, too "Never ask an engineer to explain something, because he will." |
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bjaeger Leiurus

Number of posts: 2159 Age: 24 Location: Pennsylvania, US Registration date: 2008-04-29
 | Subject: Re: How to tell if it's time to change your substrate 5/16/2009, 11:05 am | |
| Yup. I've wasted a lot of substrate. I used to change the substrate every 2-3 months ...  |
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scorpion111 Post-whore

Number of posts: 3455 Age: 17 Location: scotland Registration date: 2008-04-07
 | Subject: Re: How to tell if it's time to change your substrate 5/16/2009, 11:33 am | |
| it is pretty cool. Alot of folk seem to worry about moulds and such, when the scorpions are obviously going to come into contact with them in the wild. |
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diabollicallycursed Babycurus

Number of posts: 365 Age: 27 Location: Ontario Canada Registration date: 2009-03-25
 | Subject: Re: How to tell if it's time to change your substrate 5/20/2009, 2:50 pm | |
| | Mr. Mordax wrote: | | Since when do mushrooms release methane? And unless you have your tank sealed, a lot of air can exchange by diffusion. | LMAO I agree mike I never heard of a farting mushroom  I remember you telling me several months ago when I first joined this forum that I should not be changing my substrate. |
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