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PostSubject: Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus?   Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus? Empty3/28/2009, 2:12 am

hey guys i just got this scorpion, they told me it was H. Laoticus and i would like the help of the board to confirm this. Im pretty sure it's not H. Longimanus, but i'm not too sure with H. Spinifer. My guess is he really is H. Laoticus. Btw, he's an eating machine Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus?   Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus? Empty3/28/2009, 3:02 am

My money is on laoticus but I'm no heterometrus expert. Wish Thaedion was here...
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus?   Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus? Empty3/28/2009, 4:54 am

I would say it was a Longimanus. The telson is black and there is some granulation on the carapiece.
From what I believe the Laoticus has a smothe carapiece (I had a Laoticus and left with her mass of babies!)

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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus?   Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus? Empty3/28/2009, 11:26 am

can you get some shots of the chelae? I'm gonna guess petersii or longimanus..
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus?   Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus? Empty3/28/2009, 2:18 pm

Wow, what a divided board. Razz

As stated, H. laoticus is the only Heterometrus sp. that has a smooth carapace, and there's definitely granulation present in this specimen. H. longimanus have elongated chela (hence the name), so it's definitely not that.

Of the available options, I'd say H. spinifer, but I can't eliminate something like H. petersii.

Does anyone have that PDF of the granulation patterns for this whole genus?

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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus?   Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus? Empty3/28/2009, 4:44 pm

crap! lol
xD

ok guys i will surely take more pics for this haha
i will do it later today!
thanks for replying so far Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus?   Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus? Empty3/28/2009, 6:21 pm

mike;

http://www.science.marshall.edu/fet/euscorpius/p2004_15.pdf

I thought only male longimanus..es had super-long pedipalps?
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus?   Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus? Empty3/28/2009, 7:21 pm

Females have long ones, males have really long ones.

Edit: That's not the PDF I was thinking of; there's one where it shows a typical carapace and fifth metasoma segment for each species, highlighting the granulation pattern. I'll see if I can find it.

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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus?   Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus? Empty3/28/2009, 7:33 pm

I can has? (If you find it) Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus?   Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus? Empty3/28/2009, 7:39 pm

Found it! Bottom of linked page below, in G. Carnell's post. It's a ZIP file of several PDFs, each is a page and has a few diagrams that should be useful for IDing hets.

http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?t=77160

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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus?   Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus? Empty3/28/2009, 8:51 pm

ahhh, thanks mike.
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus?   Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus? Empty3/31/2009, 4:20 am

here are the new pics
hopefully this will make it easier
im pretty sure it's not laoticus

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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus?   Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus? Empty3/31/2009, 11:35 am

mestill thinks it is petersii..
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus?   Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus? Empty3/31/2009, 12:32 pm

WOW two pinheads at a time lol My H.spin does not have the redness in the pedipalps nor are they that big.
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diabollicallycursed wrote:
WOW two pinheads at a time lol My H.spin does not have the redness in the pedipalps nor are they that big.

hahaha
yeah, he's a monster xD
he's lightning fast too, i drop them in and he dashes after them

and i think you may be right scorpion111, i'm leaning towards Petersii
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus?   Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus? Empty3/31/2009, 3:11 pm

I don't think it's H.spin


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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus?   Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus? Empty3/31/2009, 3:16 pm

Wouldn't it be cool if it was swammerdami
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diabollicallycursed wrote:
Wouldn't it be cool if it was swammerdami

lol i wish
then i could've gotten one for 13 bucks xD
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deff. not swammerdami.. It would be kool though. usually cost a few hundred dollars Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus?   Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus? Empty3/31/2009, 10:43 pm

They ARE the largest scorp in the world right?
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus?   Heterometrus Laoticus? Spinifer, Longimanus? Empty4/1/2009, 1:18 pm

Those aren't pinheads. Razz

H. laoticus (the poster, not the species) -- did you check out this link?

Mr. Mordax wrote:
Found it! Bottom of linked page below, in G. Carnell's post. It's a ZIP file of several PDFs, each is a page and has a few diagrams that should be useful for IDing hets.

http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?t=77160

Try going there and comparing the granulation patterns of yours to those shown in the download.

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http://s4.zetaboards.com/HerpinVerts/topic/114112/1/

this site proved helpful to me
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