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PostSubject: Has anyone ever observed this behavior? (Warning to 56K users)   2/13/2009, 3:31 am

I have a larger P. Imp and a smaller one, one roughly half its size that do something kind of funny. The small one rides around on top of the larger one and when they exit their burrow and stand on vacant land, the little one deploys from its mount and jumps down to mimic the larger ones EVERY move. Its so strange. They will just bask there for an hour or so, then the large one would move to face a different direction and then other will adjust to be right next to it. I have a couple pictures. Its really bizarre to me, and quite comical. If anyone could tell me why, or if its of any importance at all, please let me know. The young one LITERALLY mimics the large ones every move. Both are posing in the alert stance, tails up and claws open at the same angles and everything. Now one just stepped back a couple inches and the other adjusted to remain next to it. I have 6 P. Imps in my habitat and these are the only two that do this. Its almost like they're guarding the burrow. I just thought i would share. Any input is appreciated-if anything it'd make you laugh. Thanks all!











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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone ever observed this behavior? (Warning to 56K users)   2/13/2009, 3:44 am

Well, scorpions are pretty much like a biological robot programmed to do the same thing as any other.

So when a stimuli is presented, they both react in the exact same way.
I have witnessed this alot.


But, I would also like to add, that someone noted emps guarding each other during molting times.

So it could be that they release chemicals when about to molt and during which can cause others in the colony to protect the molting one.

That could also be something to do with it.
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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone ever observed this behavior? (Warning to 56K users)   2/13/2009, 4:00 am

It's quite possible that you're right. Any one of the remaining 4 in the burrow could be about to molt. These two are probably just on guard duty. It's still so very fascinating. I just hoped that they would exit the burrow and molt topside. Do you know if they will push the evacuation to the surface or should I go after it? I have a small window that I will be able to tell when the molt is underway or completed. Thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone ever observed this behavior? (Warning to 56K users)   2/13/2009, 3:42 pm

teehee I wonder if its me about the protection you are thinking about Smile ive seen that

I would say about the OP scorpions is..."IT MUST BE LOVE, LOVE LOVE"...teehee
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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone ever observed this behavior? (Warning to 56K users)   2/13/2009, 5:40 pm

haha nice lolz
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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone ever observed this behavior? (Warning to 56K users)   2/13/2009, 5:49 pm

*Connie* wrote:
teehee I wonder if its me about the protection you are thinking about Smile ive seen that

I would say about the OP scorpions is..."IT MUST BE LOVE, LOVE LOVE"...teehee
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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone ever observed this behavior? (Warning to 56K users)   2/14/2009, 2:09 am

Just looks like stilting to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone ever observed this behavior? (Warning to 56K users)   2/14/2009, 3:52 am

Looks like you got a pair of soul mates there. I have no scientific evidence to back up this hypothesis. Nonetheless, I have over the years observed a wide range of peculiar if not bizarre communal behavior with my H. spinifer broodlings. I have successfully raised a total of 17 captive hatched H. spinifers; 3 of which have been sent to study (board) abroad with my buddy in Hong Kong lol. This is the display tank where I keep my 5th to 6th instars.



In here there are two large pieces of drift wood half-buried in the substrate and a broken flower pot fragment to provide shelter. Around the edges of these are roughly 6 to 7 burrow entrances; 3 of which I dugout for them. One their own, the scorps have constructed a large master chamber at the bottom from which these entrances branch out. For the most part, the majority of them huddle down there together in some kind of pre-ordained cultish order. Twisted Evil



When this picture was taken they were about 8 scorpions in this tank. At any one time, 3 or or four of them would each occupy any one of the burrow entrances with their chela outstretched and ready to seize 'mana falling from the sky' (crix) lol.



On several occasions I've noticed two or three of them would lurk like this together at the same entrace piled on top of each other, forming what appears to be a scorpion with 3 pairs of pincers; spectacular to say the least. Unfortunately I did not manage to capture a shot of that in action.



In such instances however, I've never seen them fight over food when I throw in crix. Instead, the one that is farthest out of the burrow makes claim while the others corteously fall back. The prize-winner then either pulls his catch deeper into the burrow or just sits there untill he finishes his meal. Eventually whenever he retracts, his place is taken by the next scorpion waiting in line.

In conclusion, my best guess is that when juvenile forest scorpions share a communal burrow (which they often do at this point in their life); with a single entrance from which to ambush prey, they actually take turns to lie in wait for food. This I have deduced to have two beneficial purposes. The first most apparent result of this is that every scorpion gets equal opportunity to receive a fair amount of food without having to resort to undesired competitive squabbles. I'm not certain if they intentionally share their catch with their siblings.

Secondly, if a scorpion should decide to dine deeper in the burrow, it is assured that it may feed undisturbed while there is another scorpion posting guard at the burrow entrance. These communal tendencies only persist to 6th instr. At 7i to final moult, they begin to show preference to occupy a burrow of their own.

How does this relate to understanding the behavior you have experienced with your emps. Well for one, I've been told that H. spinifer are somewhat similiar to P. imperator with regards to their ideal levels of temperature ad humidity and even to some extetn behavioral personality. I live in Malaysia where temperature is the least of my worries; these are local scorpions after all. I do nonetheless take measures to maintain humid conitions with no taxing effor whatsoever. For moulting, my scorps opt to find a comfortable spot of ground outside the burrow. I don't know your country of residence but the temperature gauges imply that you live in a country where temperature is something you have to reasonably monitor when keeping tropical forest scorpions. It could be that youir emps came out together to bask in the warmth of the heat lamp. Their synchornized movements could result from the identical need to raise the temperature of the same bodysurface areas . Just a guess, not to be taken as serious expert opinion for I do not consider myself to be. Very Happy

By the way nice scorpions. Cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone ever observed this behavior? (Warning to 56K users)   2/14/2009, 11:14 am

that must have taken weeks to write...
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PostSubject: Re: Has anyone ever observed this behavior? (Warning to 56K users)   2/15/2009, 10:44 pm

it was a good one though
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