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LXDNG79
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PostSubject: Unidentified Scorplings   Unidentified Scorplings Empty1/25/2009, 8:57 am

A close friend came back from Hong Kong yesterday and brought me 3 scorplings of unknown origin. 2 of them look very likely to be emps

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They resemble pictures of Emps scorplings that I've seen on the net. Here's a close-up of one them for more precise identification.
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This one was bigger than the other two rest and I isolated it to avoid the untoward.
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The coloration is an uncompromising solid black.
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Here's a close-up to hopefully make the job easier.
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It could well be just an older emp, But I was told that this one was purchased at a different store from the other two and its got me stumped. So hope you guys could help me out here.

Cheers.
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PostSubject: Re: Unidentified Scorplings   Unidentified Scorplings Empty1/25/2009, 9:01 am

I don't think those ones at the top are p. Imperator, palps are too small...

That bigger one looks like heterometrus sp...

Wild caught or did he buy them? If they are wild caught you wont have p. Imperator
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PostSubject: Re: Unidentified Scorplings   Unidentified Scorplings Empty1/25/2009, 9:07 am

Those are Heterometrus spp. An ID won't be possible until they are adult. Then you need to take sharp and clear pictures of the carapace.
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PostSubject: Re: Unidentified Scorplings   Unidentified Scorplings Empty1/25/2009, 10:47 am

Initial guess, H. Laoticus.
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PostSubject: Re: Unidentified Scorplings   Unidentified Scorplings Empty1/25/2009, 11:02 am

Unfamiliar wrote:
I don't think those ones at the top are p. Imperator, palps are too small...

Thats what I was thinking. Not that I know what they actually are though, I just have a hunch at what they're not, lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Unidentified Scorplings   Unidentified Scorplings Empty1/25/2009, 11:53 am

They're some type of Heterometrus
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PostSubject: Re: Unidentified Scorplings   Unidentified Scorplings Empty1/25/2009, 12:00 pm

There weren't any records of their origins at the pet stores in HK. They didn't use scientific names and were most likely labeled as "black scorpion, giant e.t.c ". Can't tell if they are local or foreign to the region they turned up.

Are there any species-specific morphological features apparent at this stage for Hets? Going through the Euscoprius journal is starting to cause blindness.
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PostSubject: Re: Unidentified Scorplings   Unidentified Scorplings Empty1/25/2009, 2:29 pm

Again with no emps; there's absolutely no granulation on their chela -- emps' are heavily granulated even when young, and would have white or cream telsons.

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PostSubject: Re: Unidentified Scorplings   Unidentified Scorplings Empty1/25/2009, 3:05 pm

Do H. petersi scorplings have a dark or creamy white telson?
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PostSubject: Re: Unidentified Scorplings   Unidentified Scorplings Empty1/25/2009, 3:39 pm

not pandinus as everyone has said. these look to be hets but I wont ID or even guess to idea until adult.
I would say H. Laoticus as no visable granulation on the "head"...but again im not 100%
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PostSubject: Re: Unidentified Scorplings   Unidentified Scorplings Empty2/1/2009, 2:30 am

If your buddy Eric can pass some info, i.e. the name of the pet store where he got them from. I may be able to help trace its origin. No promises on that, but I can try Alex.

Are these guys as defensive as the Longimanus scorplings?

P/s: I still think it's a Heterometrus laoticus, looking from the granulation (or the lack of it rather) on the carapace. It may still be too young to be certain as species specific characteristics of granulation only develop into prominent textures in the Heterometrus genus at later instars.
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PostSubject: Re: Unidentified Scorplings   Unidentified Scorplings Empty4/17/2009, 4:41 pm

heterometrus sp
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PostSubject: Re: Unidentified Scorplings   Unidentified Scorplings Empty4/17/2009, 7:11 pm

i think they are spinifer... but thats just a random guess, as my spinifers always have black telsons.
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PostSubject: Re: Unidentified Scorplings   Unidentified Scorplings Empty4/18/2009, 1:14 am

And the winner goes to H. laoticus, just been confirmed by the source and comparison with a pair of adults I newly acquired will post updates on those and much more very shortly.
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PostSubject: Re: Unidentified Scorplings   Unidentified Scorplings Empty4/18/2009, 1:49 am

rafiqos takes the grand prize cheers
A free scorp.....just kidding. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Unidentified Scorplings   Unidentified Scorplings Empty4/18/2009, 4:12 am

~Abyss~ wrote:
rafiqos takes the grand prize cheers
A free scorp.....just kidding. Razz
*ahem* I believe I said the "correct" answer also
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PostSubject: Re: Unidentified Scorplings   Unidentified Scorplings Empty4/20/2009, 3:38 pm

Yep, well why not Connie!

Rafiqos! one of them laoticus scorplings is going to you!

For Real.... Smile
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