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PostSubject: Nearly dead Dragon   1/24/2009, 8:47 pm

Ok so I got a call last night off of Sonias aunt, her son who we were trying to advise on how to get his dragon back into health
is getting more and more worried, and they asked if we could nurse it for them, I agreed and so the lil guy arrived this morning.
I weighed him he weighs 14 grams and is 5 months old!!!!
The guy it belongs to Sonias cousin basically in his words not mine "didnt have time" to syringe feed etc
I work full time aswell and yet I am willing to do it
So I am rather angry at him, happy with his parent though for taking control and bringing the lil one to me

anyway im gunna share a pic to show the extent of the damage





So yeah send your prayers to this lil guy
oh and hes called OP ( optimus prime )

Oh just to add
I managed to get about 20ml of my emergency mixture for reptiles by using a syringe
just in case your curious it contains baby strawberry food, some baby chicken food, lots of live food, greens,
calcium powder, Vitamin powder, and a bit of water all blended very well so that it goes into the syringe
He has kept it down for the last 4 hours so hopefully no regurge which is good.
Hes also had some worming solution and a vitamin injection.


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PostSubject: Re: Nearly dead Dragon   1/24/2009, 8:52 pm

WOW.

poor little guy! he is one of the skinniest little livards I've ever seen.

all preys are with him.

how's he doing atm?
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PostSubject: Re: Nearly dead Dragon   1/24/2009, 8:55 pm

Hes sleeping now, I just added a little bit more onto my original post.
He is the skinniest I have ever seen, he weighs close to a newborn Beardies weight
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PostSubject: Re: Nearly dead Dragon   1/24/2009, 8:58 pm

good that he hasn't brung it back up again.

it's weird seeing one so small and skinny, my freind's BD looks like a pillow lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Nearly dead Dragon   1/24/2009, 8:59 pm

yeah they really should be much much much fatter
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PostSubject: Re: Nearly dead Dragon   1/24/2009, 9:32 pm

Be very carefull on worming a lizard this far gone. It can do more harm than good. Remember that the wormer not only kills bad parasites but good as well. Every living organism has different gut contents, some good some bad. When an animal is this far gone, especially dehydrated its organs will shrivel as well. REhydrating is more important than solids right now. Pedialite or the like is more beneficial as well as Vitamin powder disolved in the liquid. Adding solids can cause blockage since organs are most likely shriveled. Just like if you were to go to Emergency for dehydration the Doctors will put you on a IV drip with fluids till you are urinating. This indicates your organs have begun to get the fluids they need to function properly.. Fluids - 1-2 CC's from syringe Pedialite every 2-4 hrs. 3x daily with Vitamin mix. You dont want to drown it either hence the smaller amounts more often. Soaking in 82-88 degree Water a couple times a day. Higher humididty than normal for a beardie but dont do the 90-105 degree spot light unless Humdiity is higher in that spot. I would keep it in the mid 80's for temps.. I think Ya'll measure Temps by Celsius there so I hope this helps.. LOL
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PostSubject: Re: Nearly dead Dragon   1/24/2009, 9:39 pm

Sorry just wanted to ADD I am NOT a veterinarian.. I am a guy who has kept reptiles for over 20 years and these are things I have done that have worked for me.
You should always get the advice of a CERTIFIED herp vet if you can find one in your area.
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PostSubject: Re: Nearly dead Dragon   1/25/2009, 3:03 pm

dont worry about it mate, trust me I dont need any help when it comes to beardies lol
I know what im diong with them lol

I just wanna add Im not being defensive sean lol I just read my post back and it comes across as if I have taken
offence to what you said lmao I just posted it on here to show what can happen when people just dont take care of there animals


And finally lol The lil guy now weighs 22 grams thats 8 grams more than when he arrived yesterday
I managed to get quite a bit of food into him lol
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PostSubject: Re: Nearly dead Dragon   1/25/2009, 3:09 pm

Oh and Sean he has been to the vets lol
He is on the smallect dose of panacur possible to avoid any ill afects,
Its the same dose I would use for a hatchling lol
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PostSubject: Re: Nearly dead Dragon   1/25/2009, 6:01 pm

really hope the lil guy pulls through. cant believe they let it get this bad.
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PostSubject: Re: Nearly dead Dragon   1/25/2009, 6:28 pm

omg poor OP
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PostSubject: Re: Nearly dead Dragon   1/25/2009, 7:15 pm

Nice- Im glad he is taking on weight.. I didnt mean to come across as a Know it all, I saw the pics and the "Oh my god help that animal" kicked in.. lol
Im glad you got it. i think I saw your age and assumed a little to much and for that I apologize..
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PostSubject: Re: Nearly dead Dragon   1/25/2009, 7:17 pm

DUDE!!!i'm glad you got that BD before it was too late!take good care of it Graham!
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PostSubject: Re: Nearly dead Dragon   1/25/2009, 7:46 pm

you know I will gabe
and Sean I may be young but Iv cared fr beardies fpr just over 10 years
so have more than enough experience caring for ill dragons lol
In all the years I have kept and bred them though I have never seen one get this ill
and this low in weight and still push on, I should have him good as new in no time.
I just dont know if im going to lest the owner have him back or not
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PostSubject: Re: Nearly dead Dragon   1/25/2009, 8:15 pm

Nice- Ive never seen a live one that bad myself.. Great job man..
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PostSubject: Re: Nearly dead Dragon   1/26/2009, 5:32 am

Iv never seen it either, and unfortunately my first instincts on this one were right
he was found dead at 6 am this morning
RIP OP
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PostSubject: Re: Nearly dead Dragon   1/26/2009, 6:57 am

Sad poor little fella
Slap the owner right across the face for me....no one should neglect an animal like that

RIP little one
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PostSubject: Re: Nearly dead Dragon   1/26/2009, 7:27 am

really sad to hear that graham, it's a damn shame you didn't get OP sooner, but you tried, that is the main thing.

I've had a WD come to me that bad and that took some reviving!
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PostSubject: Re: Nearly dead Dragon   1/26/2009, 8:11 am

Bummer..good effort Graham. Hopefully your posts will help someone else. We all like when it turns out for the good, but some of the info may help in another situation later.
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PostSubject: Re: Nearly dead Dragon   1/27/2009, 9:53 am

Just a short question graham. What are the likelihood of the poor thing suffering from crypto?
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PostSubject: Re: Nearly dead Dragon   1/27/2009, 10:35 am

when you say crypto are you reffering to cryptosporidiosis?
Cuz if you are I would say it is possible but doubtful, usually any animal with cryptosporidiosis has very noticeably abnormal faeces and when this lil guy pooped they were relatively normal.
All the vet found wrong was mal nutrition and worms, I think this is just a case of it being too late for me to make enough of a difference. I wanted to perform an autopsy so I could check everything out, but I dont feel the original owner would like that idea very much.
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PostSubject: Re: Nearly dead Dragon   1/27/2009, 12:38 pm

sorry graham. Sad

at least you tried.
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PostSubject: Re: Nearly dead Dragon   1/27/2009, 3:08 pm

you tried. you couldnt do anymore. sadly it was too late.
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PostSubject: Re: Nearly dead Dragon   2/1/2009, 2:22 am

lycanlord19 wrote:
when you say crypto are you reffering to cryptosporidiosis?
Cuz if you are I would say it is possible but doubtful, usually any animal with cryptosporidiosis has very noticeably abnormal faeces and when this lil guy pooped they were relatively normal.
All the vet found wrong was mal nutrition and worms, I think this is just a case of it being too late for me to make enough of a difference. I wanted to perform an autopsy so I could check everything out, but I dont feel the original owner would like that idea very much.
Yes cryptosporidiosis. Did not key in the entire word for fear of a major typo, Lol! I noticed the state of the poor sauria in the pics. He looked as deprived of food as much as he was dehydrated. That was why the question came Graham. But since you mentioned no fecal abnormalities were present, that pretty much says it isn't cryto (fingers crossed).

Lucky it turned out negative from the vet's side. Or else you'd be fearing for the lives of the other reptiles at home. I admire your compassion for the animal Graham.
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PostSubject: Re: Nearly dead Dragon   2/1/2009, 11:46 am

I'm sorry to hear bout the BD..

RIP OP..
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