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PostSubject: Androctonus Amoreuxi care?   1/21/2009, 9:33 pm

Spotted an Androctonus Amoreuxi at my old work and fancy pickin it up when i get a job, how do u look after these bad boys, and its a very small juvenile maybe 3rd instar or something around there so how do i set it up so that it can moult well?

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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus Amoreuxi care?   1/21/2009, 9:39 pm

I really doubt this is a androctonus sp, these are buthid scorpions and you aren't allowed to keep them in britain legally without a DWA permit. it's probably some other species. I really doubt it's an A.amoreuxi.
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus Amoreuxi care?   1/21/2009, 9:43 pm

hmmmm well it still looks cool so i might pick it up ill need to identify it tho cause they dont know a thing bout scorps there _
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus Amoreuxi care?   1/21/2009, 9:46 pm

lol, if I found one of those in a pet shop I would faint.

did they actually have it labeled as Androctonus amoreuxi?
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus Amoreuxi care?   1/21/2009, 11:39 pm

see if you can get a pic? heres a link of a very good representation of an amourexi. even if it is small, the big giveaways are going to be the lyre-shaped marking on the front of the carapace, and the heavy rows of granulation on the tail. keep in mind these are smaller than many other commonly available non-buthid scorpions, maxing out at only a few inches.

http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/a_amoreuxi_egypt2.jpg



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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus Amoreuxi care?   1/22/2009, 2:09 am

They're also not as fat-tailed as most fattails.

If it is an A. amoreuxi, get it, get it fast, and don't tell anyone. It's virtually impossible to find buthids in the UK.

If it's not, it may be something such as Vaejovis spinigerus -- at a glance a large V. spinigerus can look a lot like a small A. amoreuxi. I recall an ID thread on here where it came down to those two species.

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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus Amoreuxi care?   1/22/2009, 9:52 am

klkl cheers guys.

If it is an Amoreuxi how big do they get bout 3 inches from chelicerae to aculeus?

I have to wait t ill i get a job n get paid to pick it up unfortunately SadSad unless i get my girlfriend to pay for it Razz

Luckily scorps dont sell well at that shop especially a buthid so it could be there for a while.
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus Amoreuxi care?   1/22/2009, 11:41 am

well... either way you should still get it! and if it is a A.a.... you are very lucky. -_-
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus Amoreuxi care?   1/22/2009, 11:52 am

They're about the size of an H. arizonensis, maybe a little smaller.

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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus Amoreuxi care?   1/22/2009, 12:01 pm

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well... either way you should still get it! and if it is a A.a.... you are very lucky. -_-

Oh dont worry i will Wink

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They're about the size of an H. arizonensis, maybe a little smaller.

Always wanted an H.Arizonensis and if i can get a desert species about the same size but a bit rarer all the better Very Happy:D

So waht conditions do u keep them under anyways.
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus Amoreuxi care?   1/22/2009, 12:08 pm

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So waht conditions do u keep them under anyways.

Hot 'n' dry. Give 'em something to dig a scrape out under (probably won't burrow).

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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus Amoreuxi care?   1/22/2009, 12:13 pm

Their size is more like a Spadix or smaller.
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus Amoreuxi care?   1/22/2009, 12:24 pm

so i dont need to supply a deed substrate then so i could put the heat mat underneath.

What about their life span, how long do they live and what will i do when it comes to the thing moulting cause its pretty wee.
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus Amoreuxi care?   1/22/2009, 1:30 pm

If it's that wee, it may just be a V. spinigerus. Care is pretty much the same.

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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus Amoreuxi care?   1/22/2009, 3:16 pm

hmmm... obviously... be careful with it.
if for any reason your having trouble with it or you dont like the idea of having a dangerous scorp then pass it on to one of the other, more experienced keepers.
get it as fast as you can please! i dont want any little, irrisponsible kid getting it for their birthday!
double cage it and keep it very secure. dont want a serious sting in the UK and the government get all worried and ban all scorps!

dont worry, we wont tell anyone u got it.
(its probably something else btw)

how much is it?
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus Amoreuxi care?   1/22/2009, 8:11 pm

No idea how much it is i never asked and dont worry i wont even touch it or let my hands anywhere near it if i think its an Amoreuxi.

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If it's that wee, it may just be a V. spinigerus. Care is pretty much the same.
It is pretty wee though its a juvenile and they often get juvenile stuff, when im next in ill ask if i can take pictures and show u guys to get a positive ID
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus Amoreuxi care?   1/23/2009, 2:00 am

If you get pictures, try to get the metasoma from the side. V. spinigerus have distinct spines that we'll be able to see.

Example:


In that picture they're most visible on the fourth metasomal segment.

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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus Amoreuxi care?   1/23/2009, 11:52 am

do you mean the granulations or the edges of the bulbous areas of the segments?
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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus Amoreuxi care?   1/23/2009, 12:04 pm

I mean how the ridges of granulation come up like a spine -- looks sort of like a sharkfin on the segments.

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PostSubject: Re: Androctonus Amoreuxi care?   1/23/2009, 12:06 pm

oh yeah, i see it, just hope my cameras up to the job cause its a pretty wee specimen.
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