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RyoKenzaki Centruroides
Number of posts : 247 Age : 34 Registration date : 2008-08-30
| Subject: Parabuthus Mossambicensis? 12/20/2008, 4:05 am | |
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scorpion111 Post-whore
Number of posts : 3455 Age : 29 Location : scotland Registration date : 2008-04-07
| Subject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis? 12/20/2008, 4:30 am | |
| definetly looks like one, it's a lot lighter than the pics of ones I've seen. | |
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RyoKenzaki Centruroides
Number of posts : 247 Age : 34 Registration date : 2008-08-30
| Subject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis? 12/20/2008, 4:47 am | |
| It looks lighter because of the hard light flash i used Glad to hear that, would like to see what other people think =) | |
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bjaeger Leiurus
Number of posts : 2282 Age : 35 Location : Pennsylvania, US Registration date : 2008-04-29
| Subject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis? 12/20/2008, 5:13 am | |
| Sunlight is probably the best type of lighting you can get when taking pictures | |
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_scorpio_ Androctonus
Number of posts : 1827 Age : 29 Location : St leonards... ENGLAND Registration date : 2008-04-11
| Subject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis? 12/20/2008, 7:50 am | |
| looks gravid whatever it is... | |
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TELOW Centruroides
Number of posts : 205 Age : 41 Location : USA Registration date : 2008-12-17
| Subject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis? 12/20/2008, 9:34 am | |
| yeah looks like a P.mos. to me as well | |
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RyoKenzaki Centruroides
Number of posts : 247 Age : 34 Registration date : 2008-08-30
| Subject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis? 12/20/2008, 11:33 am | |
| bjaeger Yeah i know but im too lazy to go outside lolz
scorpio Its just over feed haha | |
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Venom Centruroides suffusus
Number of posts : 2834 Age : 2020 Location : Chicago Registration date : 2008-02-05
| Subject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis? 12/20/2008, 1:11 pm | |
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RyoKenzaki Centruroides
Number of posts : 247 Age : 34 Registration date : 2008-08-30
| Subject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis? 12/20/2008, 1:25 pm | |
| Now, with the majority agreed that this sp is a P.Mossambicensis, I should really be extra careful with this creature People said Parabuthus sp can spray venom, any hobbyist actually experienced it? | |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator
Number of posts : 7743 Age : 38 Location : PNW Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis? 12/20/2008, 3:17 pm | |
| I know that P. transvaalicus is capable of squirting venom, but I'm pretty sure it's the only one in the genus that can. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me. | |
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TELOW Centruroides
Number of posts : 205 Age : 41 Location : USA Registration date : 2008-12-17
| Subject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis? 12/20/2008, 3:56 pm | |
| i have been sparyed by 3 different P. transvaalicus 2 were juvies and 1 was an adult female but the 3rd 4th instars are the worst atleast a few of mine were
i got it in my left eye a very little bit at that and i have a foggy spot in my eye but thats because i didnt flush my eye out right away i forgot and waited untill about 2 hours later hahaha and it was a 3rd instar that got me while being unpacked but all the other parabuthus species ive had have never sprayed a drop
they just just either 1 stand there ground. 2 hide in theyre burrows or hides. 3 screach like chalk on a black board hahaha (p. moss) odd haha
but yes be carefull anyway its a hot scorp and you dont want to get burned haha
i think you are right on that one bro i dont believe any other parabuthus can spray (maybe P.V.) but im not sure | |
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RyoKenzaki Centruroides
Number of posts : 247 Age : 34 Registration date : 2008-08-30
| Subject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis? 12/20/2008, 9:36 pm | |
| Noted, precaution should be practice Better to be safe than sorry Talking bout screech, i have never heard my P.Mos doing it... Any idea? Guys | |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator
Number of posts : 7743 Age : 38 Location : PNW Registration date : 2008-02-06
| Subject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis? 12/20/2008, 11:50 pm | |
| Some Parabuthus species will stridulate by rubbing their telson on part of their metasoma, I believe. I just can't remember which species. | |
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Skywalker Hadogenes
Number of posts : 70 Age : 37 Location : Austria Registration date : 2008-04-15
| Subject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis? 12/22/2008, 10:00 am | |
| Hi,
it's not P. mossambicensis, sorry. Your scorpion is a female Parabuthus pallidus.
@Mr.Mordax: all Parabuthus species can stridulate by rubbing their telson on metasomal segment I and II | |
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Scorpis Babycurus
Number of posts : 254 Age : 34 Location : home sweet home Registration date : 2008-08-01
| Subject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis? 12/26/2008, 1:05 am | |
| I agree whit Skywalker, its an P.pallidus. I have one my self, and it looks pretty mutch like it. And yeah, it looks gravid (or maybe just fat) | |
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RyoKenzaki Centruroides
Number of posts : 247 Age : 34 Registration date : 2008-08-30
| Subject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis? 12/26/2008, 2:14 am | |
| - Skywalker wrote:
- Hi,
it's not P. mossambicensis, sorry. Your scorpion is a female Parabuthus pallidus.
@Mr.Mordax: all Parabuthus species can stridulate by rubbing their telson on metasomal segment I and II Hmm, after searching some pic for comparison i dont think mine is P.Pallidus 1st its the coloration of a P.Pallidus is too light compare to my sp (But again, we cant really ID a sp by the coloration alone) 2nd is the granulation line on P.Pallidus mesasoma are not visible in my sp Im not sure myself, but this is just what i think, no offenses.... | |
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Skywalker Hadogenes
Number of posts : 70 Age : 37 Location : Austria Registration date : 2008-04-15
| Subject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis? 12/26/2008, 9:25 am | |
| - RyoKenzaki wrote:
Hmm, after searching some pic for comparison i dont think mine is P.Pallidus 1st its the coloration of a P.Pallidus is too light compare to my sp (But again, we cant really ID a sp by the coloration alone) You already gave the answer yourself, coloration is no criterion for the ID of Parabuthus spp. There are several color morph of almost every Parabuthus species I have seen up to date. And believe me I have seen/keep a lot The coloration of P. pallidus can range from yellow, orange to light/dark brown or even blackish. - RyoKenzaki wrote:
2nd is the granulation line on P.Pallidus mesasoma are not visible in my sp Im not sure myself, but this is just what i think, no offenses.... Which mesosomal granulation do you mean? Parabuthus spp. are IDed by comparisson of the granulations at the metasoma. | |
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RyoKenzaki Centruroides
Number of posts : 247 Age : 34 Registration date : 2008-08-30
| Subject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis? 12/29/2008, 5:45 pm | |
| Would like to know more on how to ID a parabuthus based on their metasoma granulation Do u mind telling me more? | |
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Skywalker Hadogenes
Number of posts : 70 Age : 37 Location : Austria Registration date : 2008-04-15
| Subject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis? 12/29/2008, 6:12 pm | |
| I suggest you read the following paper:
Prendini, L. 2004. The systematics of southern African Parabuthus Pocock (Scorpiones, Buthidae): Revisions to the taxonomy and key to the species. Journal of Arachnology 32(1): 109–186.
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It only deals with Parabuthus species from southern Africa so you won't find P. pallidus in the key. But it gives you an idea on how Parabuthus spp. are IDed. You can follow the key to P. mossambicensis and read the description to that species. That way you should be able to rule out that species. I can help you and take a look at it myself (although I'm 100% sure that it's P. pallidus) but I would need good pictures of the following parts of the metasoma:
- metasomal segment I und II, dorsal - metasomal segment I und II, lateral - metasomal segment IV und V, ventral - metasomal segment IV und V, lateral | |
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