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PostSubject: Babies! (Yes I know, this is the third time in the last month)   1/14/2009, 4:13 am

This time it was a Centruroides hentzi. I thought it was premoult but today I found it with one 1i baby on its back and 11 1i babies in several clumps spread around the enclosure. They were born either today or yesterday. Several of the abandoned babies were upside down. I did some research and figured that usually 1i's that are abandoned will die. I was really wanting more than one baby. I also determined that they were probably booted off when I picked up her container. This probably startled the mother who then discarded the babies so that she could hide.

As such I manged to collect the babies and place them rightside up on the mothers back. They each managed to find enough grip to stay on her back as she roamed around the enclosure. Granted this may stress the mother enough to eat the babies (including the one that wasn't discarded), but I really did not want to simply leave them to die, and I lack the tools needed to attempt to create an incubator to attempt to save them that way. I will check again in the morning when I wake up for work (4.5 hours from now, lol) and see if they are all still on the moms back. If they are I'll leave things alone for a few days and see if they make it to 2i.

Anyhow, here is a picture.
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PostSubject: Re: Babies! (Yes I know, this is the third time in the last month)   1/14/2009, 4:16 am

good luck! I hope they all stay on and dont get eaten and manage to make it to 2I
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PostSubject: Re: Babies! (Yes I know, this is the third time in the last month)   1/14/2009, 11:38 am

Nice! I didn't have much luck with this species, so I hope yours do well.

I did some research regarding other species, and I know that some babies will climb right back onto mom if they get knocked off.

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PostSubject: Re: Babies! (Yes I know, this is the third time in the last month)   1/14/2009, 11:44 am

Sucks that a couple died.
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PostSubject: Re: Babies! (Yes I know, this is the third time in the last month)   1/14/2009, 12:21 pm

congrats dude. sucks that a few didn't make it.
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PostSubject: Re: Babies! (Yes I know, this is the third time in the last month)   1/14/2009, 2:20 pm

For some reason it seems my morning update did not post. This morning all but two of the scorps were off the moms back, but all were obviously alive (moving their legs). They grew in girth usbstantially overnight and looked very premoult. Perhaps today they will moult to 2i. I am very curious about why they were abandonded early. I wonder if perhaps this species drops them, lets them moult, and then after they all moult they climb back on her back? I did not observe this with my L. infuscatus or B. jackoni.
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PostSubject: Re: Babies! (Yes I know, this is the third time in the last month)   1/15/2009, 12:33 pm

Oooh, congrats Smile Glad they're all still alive.
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PostSubject: Re: Babies! (Yes I know, this is the third time in the last month)   1/15/2009, 12:43 pm

Update: No moults to 2nd instar yet. But, all of the babies are still alive. Two are on the moms back, 10 are now in two clumps in the substrate. It seems that the babies that did not remain on the mom have managed to clump together.
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PostSubject: Re: Babies! (Yes I know, this is the third time in the last month)   1/15/2009, 1:04 pm

aww dont they look sweet? congrats Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Babies! (Yes I know, this is the third time in the last month)   1/19/2009, 7:06 pm

Update: Utter failure. All of the babies failed to moult to 2i. The mom turned the dead half moulted babies into dinner except for one. This one is still alive but legs and pedipalps are stuck under itself and is unable to walk or hold prey. I am going to see if I can get it to eat pre killed food if I place it infront of it. If that works then maybe I can get it to 3i.

For some reason I have really horrible luck with this species.

But, as if to make up for it I just received two H. spadix that are both gravid females.
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PostSubject: Re: Babies! (Yes I know, this is the third time in the last month)   1/19/2009, 7:16 pm

that sucks man.. 'least you got some compensation.
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PostSubject: Re: Babies! (Yes I know, this is the third time in the last month)   1/19/2009, 10:21 pm

That does suck . . . reminds me of when I had a brood of this species. Only one lived to 2I and then died before 3I. No

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PostSubject: Re: Babies! (Yes I know, this is the third time in the last month)   1/20/2009, 1:17 am

Awww...bummer deal. Good luck with the Hadrurus bounce
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