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RyoKenzaki
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PostSubject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis?   Parabuthus Mossambicensis? - Page 2 Empty12/26/2008, 2:14 am

Skywalker wrote:
Hi,

it's not P. mossambicensis, sorry. Your scorpion is a female Parabuthus pallidus.

@Mr.Mordax: all Parabuthus species can stridulate by rubbing their telson on metasomal segment I and II
Hmm, after searching some pic for comparison i dont think mine is P.Pallidus
1st its the coloration of a P.Pallidus is too light compare to my sp
(But again, we cant really ID a sp by the coloration alone)
2nd is the granulation line on P.Pallidus mesasoma are not visible in my sp
Im not sure myself, but this is just what i think, no offenses....
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PostSubject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis?   Parabuthus Mossambicensis? - Page 2 Empty12/26/2008, 9:25 am

RyoKenzaki wrote:

Hmm, after searching some pic for comparison i dont think mine is P.Pallidus
1st its the coloration of a P.Pallidus is too light compare to my sp
(But again, we cant really ID a sp by the coloration alone)
You already gave the answer yourself, coloration is no criterion for the ID of Parabuthus spp. There are several color morph of almost every Parabuthus species I have seen up to date. And believe me I have seen/keep a lot Wink The coloration of P. pallidus can range from yellow, orange to light/dark brown or even blackish.

RyoKenzaki wrote:

2nd is the granulation line on P.Pallidus mesasoma are not visible in my sp
Im not sure myself, but this is just what i think, no offenses....
Which mesosomal granulation do you mean? Parabuthus spp. are IDed by comparisson of the granulations at the metasoma.
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PostSubject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis?   Parabuthus Mossambicensis? - Page 2 Empty12/29/2008, 5:45 pm

Would like to know more on how to ID a parabuthus based on their metasoma granulation
Do u mind telling me more?
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PostSubject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis?   Parabuthus Mossambicensis? - Page 2 Empty12/29/2008, 6:12 pm

I suggest you read the following paper:

Prendini, L. 2004. The systematics of southern African Parabuthus Pocock (Scorpiones, Buthidae): Revisions to the taxonomy and key to the species. Journal of Arachnology 32(1): 109–186.

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It only deals with Parabuthus species from southern Africa so you won't find P. pallidus in the key. But it gives you an idea on how Parabuthus spp. are IDed. You can follow the key to P. mossambicensis and read the description to that species. That way you should be able to rule out that species. I can help you and take a look at it myself (although I'm 100% sure that it's P. pallidus) but I would need good pictures of the following parts of the metasoma:

- metasomal segment I und II, dorsal
- metasomal segment I und II, lateral
- metasomal segment IV und V, ventral
- metasomal segment IV und V, lateral
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