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PostSubject: Parabuthus Mossambicensis?   Parabuthus Mossambicensis? Empty12/20/2008, 4:05 am

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PostSubject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis?   Parabuthus Mossambicensis? Empty12/20/2008, 4:30 am

definetly looks like one, it's a lot lighter than the pics of ones I've seen.
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PostSubject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis?   Parabuthus Mossambicensis? Empty12/20/2008, 4:47 am

It looks lighter because of the hard light flash i used
Glad to hear that, would like to see what other people think =)
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PostSubject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis?   Parabuthus Mossambicensis? Empty12/20/2008, 5:13 am

Sunlight is probably the best type of lighting you can get when taking pictures Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis?   Parabuthus Mossambicensis? Empty12/20/2008, 7:50 am

looks gravid whatever it is...
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PostSubject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis?   Parabuthus Mossambicensis? Empty12/20/2008, 9:34 am

yeah looks like a P.mos. to me as well
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PostSubject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis?   Parabuthus Mossambicensis? Empty12/20/2008, 11:33 am

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Yeah i know but im too lazy to go outside lolz

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Its just over feed haha
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PostSubject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis?   Parabuthus Mossambicensis? Empty12/20/2008, 1:11 pm

Cool.
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PostSubject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis?   Parabuthus Mossambicensis? Empty12/20/2008, 1:25 pm

Now, with the majority agreed that this sp is a P.Mossambicensis, I should really be extra careful with this creature
People said Parabuthus sp can spray venom, any hobbyist actually experienced it?
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PostSubject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis?   Parabuthus Mossambicensis? Empty12/20/2008, 3:17 pm

I know that P. transvaalicus is capable of squirting venom, but I'm pretty sure it's the only one in the genus that can.

If I'm wrong, someone please correct me. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis?   Parabuthus Mossambicensis? Empty12/20/2008, 3:56 pm

i have been sparyed by 3 different P. transvaalicus
2 were juvies and 1 was an adult female
but the 3rd 4th instars are the worst atleast a few of mine were

i got it in my left eye a very little bit at that and i have a foggy spot in my eye
but thats because i didnt flush my eye out right away i forgot and waited untill
about 2 hours later hahaha and it was a 3rd instar that got me while being unpacked
but all the other parabuthus species ive had have never sprayed a drop

they just just either
1 stand there ground.
2 hide in theyre burrows or hides.
3 screach like chalk on a black board hahaha (p. moss) odd haha

but yes be carefull anyway its a hot scorp and you dont want to get burned haha


i think you are right on that one bro
i dont believe any other parabuthus can spray (maybe P.V.) but im not sure
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PostSubject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis?   Parabuthus Mossambicensis? Empty12/20/2008, 9:36 pm

Noted, precaution should be practice
Better to be safe than sorry
Talking bout screech, i have never heard my P.Mos doing it...
Any idea? Guys
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PostSubject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis?   Parabuthus Mossambicensis? Empty12/20/2008, 11:50 pm

Some Parabuthus species will stridulate by rubbing their telson on part of their metasoma, I believe. I just can't remember which species.
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PostSubject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis?   Parabuthus Mossambicensis? Empty12/22/2008, 10:00 am

Hi,

it's not P. mossambicensis, sorry. Your scorpion is a female Parabuthus pallidus.

@Mr.Mordax: all Parabuthus species can stridulate by rubbing their telson on metasomal segment I and II
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PostSubject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis?   Parabuthus Mossambicensis? Empty12/26/2008, 1:05 am

I agree whit Skywalker, its an P.pallidus.
I have one my self, and it looks pretty mutch like it. And yeah, it looks gravid (or maybe just fat) Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis?   Parabuthus Mossambicensis? Empty12/26/2008, 2:14 am

Skywalker wrote:
Hi,

it's not P. mossambicensis, sorry. Your scorpion is a female Parabuthus pallidus.

@Mr.Mordax: all Parabuthus species can stridulate by rubbing their telson on metasomal segment I and II
Hmm, after searching some pic for comparison i dont think mine is P.Pallidus
1st its the coloration of a P.Pallidus is too light compare to my sp
(But again, we cant really ID a sp by the coloration alone)
2nd is the granulation line on P.Pallidus mesasoma are not visible in my sp
Im not sure myself, but this is just what i think, no offenses....
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PostSubject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis?   Parabuthus Mossambicensis? Empty12/26/2008, 9:25 am

RyoKenzaki wrote:

Hmm, after searching some pic for comparison i dont think mine is P.Pallidus
1st its the coloration of a P.Pallidus is too light compare to my sp
(But again, we cant really ID a sp by the coloration alone)
You already gave the answer yourself, coloration is no criterion for the ID of Parabuthus spp. There are several color morph of almost every Parabuthus species I have seen up to date. And believe me I have seen/keep a lot Wink The coloration of P. pallidus can range from yellow, orange to light/dark brown or even blackish.

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2nd is the granulation line on P.Pallidus mesasoma are not visible in my sp
Im not sure myself, but this is just what i think, no offenses....
Which mesosomal granulation do you mean? Parabuthus spp. are IDed by comparisson of the granulations at the metasoma.
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PostSubject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis?   Parabuthus Mossambicensis? Empty12/29/2008, 5:45 pm

Would like to know more on how to ID a parabuthus based on their metasoma granulation
Do u mind telling me more?
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PostSubject: Re: Parabuthus Mossambicensis?   Parabuthus Mossambicensis? Empty12/29/2008, 6:12 pm

I suggest you read the following paper:

Prendini, L. 2004. The systematics of southern African Parabuthus Pocock (Scorpiones, Buthidae): Revisions to the taxonomy and key to the species. Journal of Arachnology 32(1): 109–186.

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It only deals with Parabuthus species from southern Africa so you won't find P. pallidus in the key. But it gives you an idea on how Parabuthus spp. are IDed. You can follow the key to P. mossambicensis and read the description to that species. That way you should be able to rule out that species. I can help you and take a look at it myself (although I'm 100% sure that it's P. pallidus) but I would need good pictures of the following parts of the metasoma:

- metasomal segment I und II, dorsal
- metasomal segment I und II, lateral
- metasomal segment IV und V, ventral
- metasomal segment IV und V, lateral
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