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PostSubject: Heterometrus spinifer agressivity   12/4/2008, 11:25 pm

Just got myself two h.spinifers (male and female) I often heard that they get along with emperors. Having a few spare tanks, I said to give it a try, and if it doesn't work, well, they'll stay alone. At first, they fought each other before I even mixed them with the emps. I bought the from a guy that imports them, he keep all the scorpions separated. When I mixed both species together, they were all looking around, but when the hets and emps faced closely, it was stingers in air and pincers pinching. I separated them, is it normal is hets fight each other?? Aren't they supposed to be communal? If its because they were isolated for so long, will they become communal once again? I'm done messing with my emps, I tried a Cavimanus once, now this, they are a happy family, and i think I will leave them this way.
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus spinifer agressivity   12/4/2008, 11:39 pm

Territorial scuffles often happen when scorps are introduced. Usually it settles down pretty quick, but some specimens are just troublemakers.

I don't advocate keeping interspecies communities.

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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus spinifer agressivity   12/4/2008, 11:57 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus spinifer agressivity   12/5/2008, 6:30 am

if its make and female they may not be fighting :sex:
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus spinifer agressivity   12/5/2008, 7:43 am

It was fighting, I saw my emps mate, and there was a difference...unless they like it brutal. lol I checked on everyone this morning, just hoped I didn't find body parts or a dead scorpion. I hope they will get along like my emperors do.
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus spinifer agressivity   12/6/2008, 11:34 pm

Rechecked on them, they're all alive, but they stay apart, not like my emperors in the same hiding spot. I just saw today that one of them has the point of the aculeus damaged, maybe from the fighting, it's still there, but it just isn't sharp.
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus spinifer agressivity   12/7/2008, 3:10 am

my two male & female het spins fought a lot when i first introduced them. and stayed away from each other all the time but within id say four days they were sharing the same burrow.
Did you make sure to change the substrate and set it up differently, that may help as well. it will then be all new territory.
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus spinifer agressivity   12/7/2008, 10:54 am

Ok, I'll give them 2-3 days like this, then I`ll change it a bit
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus spinifer agressivity   12/11/2008, 11:08 am

how are things with them now? both alive still?
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus spinifer agressivity   12/11/2008, 6:53 pm

both are alive, fed them yesterday, changed the layout a bit. They seem to have cooled down, I have seem them next to each other without any signs of aggression. But I witnessed one attacking the other last night, split them up. Today there still alive, maybe a bit territorial, fighting for a hiding spot.
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus spinifer agressivity   12/12/2008, 1:17 am

mine share, mabee you have two completely different SP.
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus spinifer agressivity   12/12/2008, 7:30 am

I doubt it, they are identical, but everything is possible, I'll try putting a picture of them soon.
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus spinifer agressivity   12/12/2008, 7:09 pm

Rechecked them, they are exactly the same, body, claws and telson. But I don't understand them, right now there in the same hiding spot. Maybe I shouldn't worry about them.
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus spinifer agressivity   12/13/2008, 4:15 am

yeah dont worry about them. do you know the sex of them both?
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus spinifer agressivity   12/13/2008, 11:57 am

both females
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus spinifer agressivity   12/13/2008, 1:38 pm

Ah-HA! If they're both gravid, that could be the source of the aggression.

I can't believe this didn't occur to me sooner. tongue

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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus spinifer agressivity   12/13/2008, 4:18 pm

They don't look like it, and they were isolated for a while. But it's not impossible.
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus spinifer agressivity   12/13/2008, 4:56 pm

if there wild caught it doesnt matter how they have been housed in captivity, they are gravid for a long time
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus spinifer agressivity   12/13/2008, 5:57 pm

Time will tell then, that wouldn't be bad news I guess
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus spinifer agressivity   12/31/2008, 11:36 am

Bad news, one dead Het. Spinifer. Lately I saw that one of them was getting calm, while the other was still aggressive. There wasn't a lot of fighting, I fed them regularly. from what I can see, the aggressive one killed the calmer one, and eat some of it. I think if it was the other way around, I think I would mind it a little less, but it still sucks. I just hope she is gravid for being this aggressive, and in return she gives birth.
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus spinifer agressivity   12/31/2008, 12:02 pm

im sure she is gravid! to be living happily, sudden agression and then a death to me SOUNDS like a pregnancy
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus spinifer agressivity   12/31/2008, 12:17 pm

do you have any pictures?
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus spinifer agressivity   12/31/2008, 1:02 pm

I'll take some this night when she comes out. To me she looks totally normal, not fat at all
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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus spinifer agressivity   12/31/2008, 1:16 pm

If there's more than one in the tank, I highly recommend separating the aggressor.

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PostSubject: Re: Heterometrus spinifer agressivity   12/31/2008, 7:02 pm

She's alone now, and she'll stay that way. Here's a picture, she doesn't look fat at all, even after eating some of her cage mate. Tell me what you think.
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