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PostSubject: A bit of a conundrum   12/2/2008, 7:32 pm

I stopped at the local pet store today, and saw an adult Babycurus sp. for only $30.

The thing is huge, but it also has bulbous pinchers. So I don't know if it's a female B. jacksoni or a male B. gigas. The store's invoice when they got it only gave a common name.

Obviously, if it's the former, I'd love to get it. There's just two problems -- I'm not absolutely sure that's what it is, and Lori and I are pretty much broke until January 5th.

EPIC SIGH.

Speaking of common names, does "golden thick-tail" mean Androctonus amoreuxi? 'Cause the owner didn't want to carry M. martensii after I described the sting reports to him (yeah, I know Babycurus spp. are worse and he's carrying those).

Oh, and it sounds like they'll be getting in Hadrurus spadix soon. Smile Too bad I'm moving towards communal-only species.

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PostSubject: Re: A bit of a conundrum   12/2/2008, 7:33 pm

Give me your paypal I'll loan you a few bucks.
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PostSubject: Re: A bit of a conundrum   12/2/2008, 7:35 pm

awwww, that sucks dude.yeah, I think "golden fat tail" is amoureuxi, seeing as the austrailis' last few metasomal segments are dark.



and I hope you get that spadix, those are stunning scorpions. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: A bit of a conundrum   12/2/2008, 11:34 pm

Maybe you can ask the shop person to hold it for you until then? Wish I could help but I'm pretty much broke as well.

What color is the scorp?
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PostSubject: Re: A bit of a conundrum   12/3/2008, 12:49 am

Eddy, Lori glared at me and said "no!" Razz

Jordan, while spadix are sweet, I'm staying away from solitary species. At least, if someone gets it knows nothing and assumes "scorpion = desert" then they won't kill this one. Smile

Jared, I might just ask him that. He's a pretty cool guy to work with. The scorp was sort of a darker burnt-orange color.


Comparing my memory of this afternoon to my preserved specimens, she seemed to be a little larger than my female but with chela as proportionately large as my male. tongue

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PostSubject: Re: A bit of a conundrum   12/3/2008, 12:58 am

it sound like gigas to me. PM your paypal if you change your mind this might just be oppertunity passing you by.
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PostSubject: Re: A bit of a conundrum   12/3/2008, 1:12 am

How opportunistic is it to buy a male of a species I never see? scratch

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PostSubject: Re: A bit of a conundrum   12/3/2008, 12:32 pm

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Jordan, while spadix are sweet, I'm staying away from solitary species. At least, if someone gets it knows nothing and assumes "scorpion = desert" then they won't kill this one. Smile
he is calum i am jordan!!
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PostSubject: Re: A bit of a conundrum   12/3/2008, 1:16 pm

Well B.gigas is around 9cm or more..

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PostSubject: Re: A bit of a conundrum   12/3/2008, 1:28 pm

OI!


calum... well me, jordan... _scorpio_



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PostSubject: Re: A bit of a conundrum   12/3/2008, 7:29 pm

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How opportunistic is it to buy a male of a species I never see? scratch
You only need the female to breed. And I'm sure you can get loans from people who have them and I happen to know a few.
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PostSubject: Re: A bit of a conundrum   12/4/2008, 12:18 am

Based on what Kejser said about size, I'm wondering if it's not a huge B. jacksoni, 'cause I don't think it's as big as B. gigas. I need to go back and get a closer look (or show you guys a picture).

To the two UK kids -- I scrolled up enough to see a black-and-white avatar and thought it was the bottom of a scorpion's pinchers. That's what you get for changing your avatars so much! Razz

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PostSubject: Re: A bit of a conundrum   12/4/2008, 12:22 am

defiantly take a pic with size comparison . B gigas. are exactly like jacks just a whole lot bigger. If you kept b. jacks for a while you can easily ID the gigas.
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PostSubject: Re: A bit of a conundrum   12/4/2008, 12:29 am

My last B. jacksoni died . . . um, quite a while ago. Spring? I forget. scratch I've got the preserved male / female pair that made it to adulthood. Do you think it would be overstepping my bounds as a customer if I took those into the shop and photographed for a size comparison?

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PostSubject: Re: A bit of a conundrum   12/4/2008, 6:22 am

http://venomlist.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=23293
Look at the colors


and look at the size

http://venomlist.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=22510&hl=gigas


I have a really huge B.jacks but she aint a B.gigas

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PostSubject: Re: A bit of a conundrum   12/10/2008, 5:12 pm

I went back and took a picture . . .



On the left is their scorp, on the right is my (deceased) male B. jacksoni.

I texted a small version of this pic to Eddy and Jared -- Eddy said B. gigas, Jared said B. jacksoni.

The size difference looks about like the pic Kejser linked.

Either way, I know now that it's definitely male, so I'm decidedly less interested than I was originally.

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PostSubject: Re: A bit of a conundrum   12/10/2008, 5:28 pm

I think that is a Gigas.. look at the size of that thing.
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PostSubject: Re: A bit of a conundrum   12/10/2008, 5:29 pm

iam going to say B.jacksonii

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PostSubject: Re: A bit of a conundrum   12/10/2008, 7:01 pm

Same picture, edited.



So would you just say it's a very large male B. jacksoni, Kejser?

My male's mesosoma could have shrunk a little during the preservation process, but this one's pedipalps and metasoma seem much more robust.

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PostSubject: Re: A bit of a conundrum   12/10/2008, 7:40 pm

Like I said I've seen "small" gigas only a bit bigger than jacksonii at shows.
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PostSubject: Re: A bit of a conundrum   12/11/2008, 10:19 am

have you been back yet? I say go for it to be honest Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: A bit of a conundrum   12/11/2008, 1:34 pm

Either way, it's a male for certain, so I'm distinctly less interested. If I'm going to get an adult male of a species, I'd like to know how old it is so I have a chance to find a mate before he kicks the bucket.

Like my immature C. margaritatus -- if it turns out to be a male, I'll know as soon as it matures and have the best shot at finding a female (or vice-versa).

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PostSubject: Re: A bit of a conundrum   8/17/2009, 1:42 pm

Mr. Mordax wrote:
My last B. jacksoni died . . . um, quite a while ago. Spring? I forget. scratch I've got the preserved male / female pair that made it to adulthood. Do you think it would be overstepping my bounds as a customer if I took those into the shop and photographed for a size comparison?



If your talking about the pet store in Corvallis, go ahead & overstep your customer bounds. The guys an unethical jerk. He will either let you do it, which Im sure he will, or not. Kim
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PostSubject: Re: A bit of a conundrum   8/17/2009, 8:37 pm

Um . . . this was quite a while ago (December '08). I did bring in my specimen for a comparison and decided it was just a very large male B. jacksoni. The folks at this particular store are fairly nice but more or less uninformed when it comes to scorpions.

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