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PostSubject: Scorpion facts (contributions only, please)   11/30/2008, 6:42 pm

Even though they are all pretty alike.
Some do have special properties.
Examples are the Parabuthus flinging.

Or those who can crystallize to survive sub-zero temps.

Those who make noises in different ways...

Actually that's pretty much it.
At least that I know, add on?
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion facts (contributions only, please)   11/30/2008, 6:55 pm

Parthenogenesis occurs in a handful of species.

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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion facts (contributions only, please)   11/30/2008, 7:43 pm

Do you know why some animals are parthenogenesis?
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion facts (contributions only, please)   11/30/2008, 8:31 pm

Why are they?

Dunno. I suppose it's advantageous if males are difficult to find, but it doesn't lend itself to a lot of genetic diversity.

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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion facts (contributions only, please)   12/1/2008, 9:00 am

probably because of breeding dificulties. i think all T's should be parthogenic because they always fight, same with mantids.
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion facts (contributions only, please)   12/1/2008, 11:35 am

^That's a bit of a generalization. I've seen several (successful) breeding attempts with tarantulas where there was no aggression at all. Same goes for mantids; most "female eats the male" situations are due to outside influences (another male showing up, a clumsy scientist, unnatural laboratory settings, etc.).

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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion facts (contributions only, please)   12/1/2008, 1:07 pm

yea... but it is just easier with pathogenesis...
ok, how about mayflys? they moult from larvae into flys, live from 12hours - 3 days, and in that time have to find a mate. would that not be simpler if they were parthogenic?
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion facts (contributions only, please)   12/1/2008, 1:34 pm

How is it biologically possible to be parthogenic?
Where do they get the sperm from?
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion facts (contributions only, please)   12/1/2008, 1:44 pm

Venom wrote:
How is it biologically possible to be parthogenic?
Where do they get the sperm from?

They don't need sperm. They just choose to process slings. A bunch of insects, arachnids and even snakes such as some garters and cottonmouths can just choose to have babies if they are females. They still breed with males though for genetic diversity. It is very interesting! I hope to obtain parthenogenic animals some day.
Also to the original topic, some scorpions such as some Centruroides have cardiotoxic venom qualities as well as neurotoxic. Where as most scorps are just varying degrees of nuerotoxic venoms.
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion facts (contributions only, please)   12/1/2008, 2:10 pm

Never heard of the Cardiotoxic Centruroides
Do you know of any specific ones? Or where you heard it?
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion facts (contributions only, please)   12/1/2008, 2:13 pm

Please note that its belived that all scorpions have 2 types of venom and can control it..

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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion facts (contributions only, please)   12/1/2008, 2:17 pm

Hemiscorpius Lepturus has Cytoxin
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion facts (contributions only, please)   12/1/2008, 2:26 pm

One chould read this for more infomation about this

http://www.americanarachnology.org/JoA_free/JoA_v21_n1/JoA_v21_p60.pdf

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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion facts (contributions only, please)   12/1/2008, 2:46 pm

Yes, the stun and kill theory.
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpion facts (contributions only, please)   12/1/2008, 5:01 pm

Venom wrote:
Never heard of the Cardiotoxic Centruroides
Do you know of any specific ones? Or where you heard it?

According to this valid site - http://www.toxinology.com/fusebox.cfm?fuseaction=main.scorpions.display&id=SC0067
It is a nuerotoxic mix with cardiotoxic effects from some other toxin.
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