Bought as a flat rock, just checking

Hasn't grown much in 2 years...

Its not a Hadogens sp thats for sure..

IMO It could be a Hadogenes, albeit a very young one. If it is, well...you'll have that one for a LONG time

If it's Hadogenes, my guess would lean away from H. paucidens because there's no banding . . . possibly H. troglodytes? In either case, the chela don't look quite right.

Iomachus is a valid thought.

Canth wrote:

IMO It could be a Hadogenes, albeit a very young one. If it is, well...you'll have that one for a LONG time

Well if it havent molted for 2 years ? thats very odd, i know hadogenes is slow growing.. but 2 years just sounds to long..
the Chela is wrong for Iomachus sp. they have these very large chela with only a very small "claw" part http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/i_politius(m)1.jpg

my guess whould be Liocheles sp. i think thats the best geuss for a possible sp http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/liocheles_sp_australia.jpg

hadogenes are pretty slow growers. at a year my little paucadins were still less than an inch long. in that time they had only shed twice! And can live for something like 20 years or so so they are no hurry to get big lol!

I would agree it looks like my Iomachus politus but altogether darker. Unfortunately out of all the Iomachus species i can only find pictures of the politus!

but on general looks it does look like part of the Hemiscorpiidae group

I had a friend who had a little 3rd instar Hadogenes sp and it hadn't molted in the 2 years he owned it.

Interesting!

I took them from my boyfriend... He said he got them at a BTS show in Wolverhampton about 18 months ago, the guy said he could have had 20 of them for £20. Probably best he didn't go for the deal since we aren't sure what they are.

Thats a 10p by the way, not a 5p.

have you sent a picture to the scorpion files, Jan ove rein may be able to point you in the right direction

how about a young Iomachus politus?

scorpion111 wrote:

how about a young Iomachus politus?

http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/i_politius(m)1.jpg

look at that photo then look at the chela of the scorpion we want to id

its similar body shape to i.politus but the legs at that size are lighter than the body. the one in the pic has same colour legs

the chela are different as well

I would email them to the scorpion files, but now I am back at work and can't see the photos.

H. troglodytes, very young. I had a few that size and if you got it from BTS im certain we got it from the same dealer because mines was bought at the BTS and shipped here as a freebie. Then i gave it away cuz of the growth rate....last I heard. It hadnt molted but did get fat. Similar to yours.

Good to know! Thanks!

As Abyss said, definitely Hadogenes. Notice that it has many accessory trichobothria on the pedipalps (really, really hairy arms). This eliminates Iomachus, Opisthacanthus, Liocheles, Cheloctonus etc. that superficially look the same. In the last picture, you can sort of see a ventral carinae on the metasoma that seems slightly off center indicating ventrosubmedian carinae -- Hadogenes.

Cheers,
Dave

To me it's definately {i]Hadogenes Troglodytes[/i] It just looks so similar to my Paucidens obviously without the yellow bands the hairs on the pedipalps, the shape of a carapace are so similar to my flat rock im pretty sure its H. Troglodytes

Here's the link to my thread on Bug Nation about my flat rock:http://bugnation.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=186&t=27766

Hope this helps.

its a bit hard to tell alot of time with juvie's but it does look like a H.trog to me as well

the hairs on the arms and the shape of the claws ext. bla bla bla hahaha

thats gonna take a looonnnggg time to mature