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PostSubject: B. jacksoni -- safe to be communal yet?   11/10/2008, 7:19 pm

I've 5 B. jacksoni and the last time they molted (aside from the last male that just matured a few-days-ago; he was the runt) was ~2-months-ago and typically they'd molt once a month around the same time. So, it's been about 2 months and I haven't seen a molt yet. The sizes of them all differs from slightly to greatly. I know that 2/5 are males due to the bulbous chela. I suppose that it's possible that I got a mixture of 2i-3i's together, and that could explain why the females matured when the males did (if I'm correct, that is).

So, with that bit of information, do you think that it would be a safe bet to put everyone together?
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PostSubject: Re: B. jacksoni -- safe to be communal yet?   11/10/2008, 7:36 pm

I think it would be best to wait 'till they are adults. just to be safe, you could end up with one really fat scorp.
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PostSubject: Re: B. jacksoni -- safe to be communal yet?   11/10/2008, 8:55 pm

Never again.

Anyone else have an opinion?
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PostSubject: Re: B. jacksoni -- safe to be communal yet?   11/10/2008, 9:00 pm

Wait till they mature. I know it's obnoxious but worth the wait. Remember that females and males have different ultimate molts.
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PostSubject: Re: B. jacksoni -- safe to be communal yet?   11/11/2008, 1:02 am

Yup. I know about the molts. It's just that they haven't molted for almost two months now and they're pretty big, so I'm guessing that all of my females are mature.

I don't have the right stuff to set them up communally just yet anyway ;x
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PostSubject: Re: B. jacksoni -- safe to be communal yet?   11/11/2008, 8:54 am

I'm just gonna put them all together once I get my hands on a couple bricks of coco fiber so that I can transfer the single emp in the 10GAL to the other 10GAL with 2 emps in it. Gotta clean all of the pheromones out of BOTH tanks... Gah! >.<
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PostSubject: Re: B. jacksoni -- safe to be communal yet?   11/11/2008, 10:01 am

Meh iam up to my albues in jacksoni broods, they just had they 6 brood, so iam starting to see if the kids can survive in they big cage with mom and dad.. so far some of them is 3 instar..

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PostSubject: Re: B. jacksoni -- safe to be communal yet?   11/11/2008, 11:33 am

Post a photo of them -- if they have bulbous chela, your males are mature, and if there's non-bulbous that are larger, then your females are mature.

Here's a size-comparison of an adult male and female.


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PostSubject: Re: B. jacksoni -- safe to be communal yet?   11/11/2008, 8:28 pm

Yup. I know all about the bulbous chela. That's how I knew that #5 was a male right after he molted.

I don't have a cam of my own, so I've to use my sister's, and she'll be home tonight. Hopefully I can get some good pics without a hassle. I haven't been taking pictures recently. They should be fat since I just fed them all Smile

So the females are just slightly larger with a thicker tail... or what?

Also, I've a male that took a month longer to mature than the other ones and he's also significantly smaller than the other guys. I guess he's the runt, eh?
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PostSubject: Re: B. jacksoni -- safe to be communal yet?   11/11/2008, 8:30 pm

Btw, the pic looks about right. The females are a bit larger than both males. The thing I was confused about in the first place was that I got them all at the same time, assumed they were from the same brood, and the females seemed to mature exactly around the time that the males did.
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PostSubject: Re: B. jacksoni -- safe to be communal yet?   11/12/2008, 12:01 am

bjaeger wrote:
So the females are just slightly larger with a thicker tail... or what?

Pretty much. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: B. jacksoni -- safe to be communal yet?   11/12/2008, 1:30 am

Sahweeeeet! Thanks for your help, guys!

I'll be setting up their communal 10 GAL tomorrow since I got a big bag of coco fiber earlier (bags are SOOOOO much easier to deal with and reuse!!).

So today, I had the audacity, if you would call it that, to ask one of the employees at a local pet shop (while getting crickets from her) why they didn't have scorps and T's. She said that the owner of the chain of stores (Pet Supplies Plus) hated bugs/spiders, so that's why they won't carry them. I think that's some <crap> if you ask me. I'd get hired there and take care of them all... I'd probably never get fired if you thought about it for a sec Wink


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PostSubject: Re: B. jacksoni -- safe to be communal yet?   11/12/2008, 1:18 pm

So I just put them all together. Everything looks good so far and there are PLENTY of hiding spots in the 10 GAL! Smile

*crosses fingers*
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PostSubject: Re: B. jacksoni -- safe to be communal yet?   11/13/2008, 1:55 pm

let us know how they get on...
i love this species!
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PostSubject: Re: B. jacksoni -- safe to be communal yet?   11/13/2008, 6:09 pm

So far, so good! Within the first 5 minutes of putting them together, two had started mating. Not sure if it was successful, but this is only one of many to come Smile

They've also ate most of the crix I had put in there... The remainder remain on the fake plant Razz

I've pics that I'll get up tonight.
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PostSubject: Re: B. jacksoni -- safe to be communal yet?   11/13/2008, 6:11 pm

WOOHOO!


they must be getting on well then. Very Happy


soon it will be like a swinger's party LOL.
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PostSubject: Re: B. jacksoni -- safe to be communal yet?   11/13/2008, 7:40 pm



How's that look? I only have cork board to work with for hides ;x
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PostSubject: Re: B. jacksoni -- safe to be communal yet?   11/13/2008, 8:33 pm

me = want them... now!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: B. jacksoni -- safe to be communal yet?   11/13/2008, 11:43 pm

Awesome, dude! Keep an eye out for spermatophores. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: B. jacksoni -- safe to be communal yet?   11/13/2008, 11:56 pm

I probably will tonight sometime. I tried mating them before and I didn't see one. Although, I'm not sure how long they did it this time Smile

Does the enclosure look alright? That was really a spur of the moment setup. I started off just by putting a piece in each corner, then I wanted to put some horizontal hides in there, so I just kinda laid them on top of eachother like that. The plant is fake, btw. There's a flat rock in the middle right in front of the plant, but they chose to use the cork board instead lol. Ohh and I have glass over the top to keep some humidity in there as well.
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PostSubject: Re: B. jacksoni -- safe to be communal yet?   11/14/2008, 12:06 am

The glass on top is OK as long as you get adequate ventilation. As for the cork, I'd suggest something a little stiffer (it looks kinda sagging in the pic). I know that mine seemed to like the "nook-and-cranny" effect of having pieces of bark.

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PostSubject: Re: B. jacksoni -- safe to be communal yet?   11/14/2008, 12:10 am

Nope. The cork board doesn't sag at all. I leave roughly an inch and a half of space for airflow at the top.

Here's a top-view:


Wet spots on the cork and on the rim of the tank are from a misting.

You can see a female's tail sticking out, too. Three of them are huddled back there.
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PostSubject: Re: B. jacksoni -- safe to be communal yet?   11/14/2008, 5:59 pm

Sweet! hope you all the best with these guys, Brandon. Smile
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