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PostSubject: Bought as a flat rock, just checking   10/4/2008, 6:27 am

Hasn't grown much in 2 years...



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PostSubject: Re: Bought as a flat rock, just checking   10/4/2008, 9:35 am

Its not a Hadogens sp thats for sure..

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PostSubject: Re: Bought as a flat rock, just checking   10/4/2008, 11:56 am

not a flat rock. looks a BIT like iomachus but....im not sure. I think im missing something...its something else im sure.... Will try to find out but by the time I find out im sure someone will have the answer haha
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PostSubject: Re: Bought as a flat rock, just checking   10/4/2008, 3:05 pm

IMO It could be a Hadogenes, albeit a very young one. If it is, well...you'll have that one for a LONG time Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Bought as a flat rock, just checking   10/4/2008, 5:52 pm

If it's Hadogenes, my guess would lean away from H. paucidens because there's no banding . . . possibly H. troglodytes? In either case, the chela don't look quite right.

Iomachus is a valid thought.

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PostSubject: Re: Bought as a flat rock, just checking   10/4/2008, 6:55 pm

Canth wrote:
IMO It could be a Hadogenes, albeit a very young one. If it is, well...you'll have that one for a LONG time Very Happy


Well if it havent molted for 2 years ? thats very odd, i know hadogenes is slow growing.. but 2 years just sounds to long..
the Chela is wrong for Iomachus sp. they have these very large chela with only a very small "claw" part http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/i_politius(m)1.jpg

my guess whould be Liocheles sp. i think thats the best geuss for a possible sp http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/liocheles_sp_australia.jpg

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PostSubject: Re: Bought as a flat rock, just checking   10/4/2008, 7:03 pm

hadogenes are pretty slow growers. at a year my little paucadins were still less than an inch long. in that time they had only shed twice! And can live for something like 20 years or so so they are no hurry to get big lol!

I would agree it looks like my Iomachus politus but altogether darker. Unfortunately out of all the Iomachus species i can only find pictures of the politus!

but on general looks it does look like part of the Hemiscorpiidae group
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PostSubject: Re: Bought as a flat rock, just checking   10/4/2008, 8:19 pm

its not Iomachus Politus. The legs are dark.
But I havent been able to find anything on the net currently. Its taking me around and around in circles and not giving pictures nor answers.
The chela are long...but granted not as long as what I have seen.

On a side now...they have a load of Iomachus Politus babies in the shop. so cute! I had a gander at them today Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Bought as a flat rock, just checking   10/4/2008, 11:22 pm

I had a friend who had a little 3rd instar Hadogenes sp and it hadn't molted in the 2 years he owned it.
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PostSubject: Re: Bought as a flat rock, just checking   10/5/2008, 6:16 am

Interesting!

I took them from my boyfriend... He said he got them at a BTS show in Wolverhampton about 18 months ago, the guy said he could have had 20 of them for 20. Probably best he didn't go for the deal since we aren't sure what they are. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Bought as a flat rock, just checking   10/5/2008, 6:54 am

Thats a 10p by the way, not a 5p.
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PostSubject: Re: Bought as a flat rock, just checking   10/5/2008, 1:24 pm

have you sent a picture to the scorpion files, Jan ove rein may be able to point you in the right direction Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Bought as a flat rock, just checking   10/5/2008, 6:53 pm

how about a young Iomachus politus?
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PostSubject: Re: Bought as a flat rock, just checking   10/5/2008, 7:22 pm

scorpion111 wrote:
how about a young Iomachus politus?

http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/i_politius(m)1.jpg

look at that photo then look at the chela of the scorpion we want to id Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Bought as a flat rock, just checking   10/5/2008, 7:36 pm

its similar body shape to i.politus but the legs at that size are lighter than the body. the one in the pic has same colour legs

the chela are different as well
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PostSubject: Re: Bought as a flat rock, just checking   10/6/2008, 3:16 am

I would email them to the scorpion files, but now I am back at work and can't see the photos. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Bought as a flat rock, just checking   10/6/2008, 3:43 am

H. troglodytes, very young. I had a few that size and if you got it from BTS im certain we got it from the same dealer because mines was bought at the BTS and shipped here as a freebie. Then i gave it away cuz of the growth rate....last I heard. It hadnt molted but did get fat. Similar to yours.
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PostSubject: Re: Bought as a flat rock, just checking   10/6/2008, 3:53 am

Good to know! Thanks! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Bought as a flat rock, just checking   10/24/2008, 6:47 pm

As Abyss said, definitely Hadogenes. Notice that it has many accessory trichobothria on the pedipalps (really, really hairy arms). This eliminates Iomachus, Opisthacanthus, Liocheles, Cheloctonus etc. that superficially look the same. In the last picture, you can sort of see a ventral carinae on the metasoma that seems slightly off center indicating ventrosubmedian carinae -- Hadogenes.

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PostSubject: Re: Bought as a flat rock, just checking   12/19/2008, 10:57 am

To me it's definately {i]Hadogenes Troglodytes[/i] It just looks so similar to my Paucidens obviously without the yellow bands the hairs on the pedipalps, the shape of a carapace are so similar to my flat rock im pretty sure its H. Troglodytes

Here's the link to my thread on Bug Nation about my flat rock:http://bugnation.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=186&t=27766

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PostSubject: Re: Bought as a flat rock, just checking   12/20/2008, 9:51 am

its a bit hard to tell alot of time with juvie's but it does look like a H.trog to me as well

the hairs on the arms and the shape of the claws ext. bla bla bla hahaha

thats gonna take a looonnnggg time to mature
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