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LadyRiotControl Leiurus

Number of posts: 2631 Age: 33 Location: West Yorkshire, England Registration date: 2008-07-12
 | Subject: Leeds Entomology Fair 9/28/2008, 9:08 am | |
| Was actually pretty good! Small hall jammed packed with some lovely specimens. There was a hybrid ornamental, the only one in the country because the egg sack somehow got squashed, cant remember the 2 species that were bred but it was absolutely beautiful, like a gold, silver n brown ornamental. There was everything there, butterfly and moths... the really big ones!!!! all sorts of mantid, milipedes, land hermit crabs, loads of cockroaches... was spoiled for choice. Think we will be doing a stall next year when we have all our stock. Not bad prices either. We came back with: - Tarantula's 0.1.0 H.Lividum (dark colour phase) 0.0.2 B. Vagans 0.0.2 - Cant remember... only 2nd successful breeding in the country... will edit this later when we remember what they were lol 0.0.1 Ornithoctonus sp koh samui Scorpions 0.0.2 H.Spinifer 0.0.3 E.Flavicaudis 1.1.0 Pseudo Hadogenes sp. <<< newly discovered and VERY RARE! I was absolutly chuffed with the Hadogenes sp. They are like miniture flat rocks, these are adults and are barely 3" long. The claws on the female are insane! So I'm like a kid at christmas with these. And yes breeding these is top on the agenda. The E.Flavicaudis are about 5mm - oh so tiny. And the H.spinifers we just given to me by a friend at the BTS. But he knows he's getting some back off us soon  FEMALE Pseudo Hadogenes:-    MALE Pseudo Hadogenes:-   |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator

Number of posts: 7741 Age: 26 Location: PNW Registration date: 2008-02-06
 | Subject: Re: Leeds Entomology Fair 9/28/2008, 9:13 am | |
| How did you sex those guys? And YAY!!! for Euscorpius sp.!!  _________________ If your emperor scorpion stops eating, don't panic. | My reviews | My Bug Pictures | My blog Be nice -- you were a noob once, too "Never ask an engineer to explain something, because he will." |
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_scorpio_ Androctonus

Number of posts: 1825 Age: 17 Location: St leonards... ENGLAND Registration date: 2008-04-11
 | Subject: Re: Leeds Entomology Fair 9/28/2008, 9:31 am | |
| why couldnt you wait untill next years scorp hunt???  |
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Stephan Pandinus

Number of posts: 45 Age: 20 Location: Amsterdam (Holland) Registration date: 2008-09-26
 | Subject: Re: Leeds Entomology Fair 9/28/2008, 9:44 am | |
| Very nice scorps  |
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LadyRiotControl Leiurus

Number of posts: 2631 Age: 33 Location: West Yorkshire, England Registration date: 2008-07-12
 | Subject: Re: Leeds Entomology Fair 9/28/2008, 10:34 am | |
| Man these are teeny tiny babies... I cant breed them for a few years now can I??? I will be getting some adults on the hunt.
As for the Hadogenes sp.... believe me they are VERY easy to sex... the females peds are longer than the males... by quite a margin.
It was funny coz I asked the guy if he knew the sexes and he said he didn't know how to sex them. I opened these two, the female was a touch larger and you couldn't miss the difference in the peds. But experience with Hadogenes sp in general was useful. I will get some better pictures tomorrow and post them in the sexing section. |
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scorpion111 Post-whore

Number of posts: 3455 Age: 17 Location: scotland Registration date: 2008-04-07
 | Subject: Re: Leeds Entomology Fair 9/28/2008, 11:06 am | |
| awesomeness!!!! that hadogens is crazy! |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator

Number of posts: 7741 Age: 26 Location: PNW Registration date: 2008-02-06
 | Subject: Re: Leeds Entomology Fair 9/28/2008, 11:08 am | |
| Are you sure those are even Hadogenes sp.? They look a lot more like Isometrus. The Hadogenes genus is typically sexed by the size of the metasoma, with males being much larger (in addition to pectine size, but that requires flipping the specimen over). In genera where the pedipalps are useful in sexing, it's typically the males that have the enlarged chela . . .  _________________ If your emperor scorpion stops eating, don't panic. | My reviews | My Bug Pictures | My blog Be nice -- you were a noob once, too "Never ask an engineer to explain something, because he will." |
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LadyRiotControl Leiurus

Number of posts: 2631 Age: 33 Location: West Yorkshire, England Registration date: 2008-07-12
 | Subject: Re: Leeds Entomology Fair 9/28/2008, 12:16 pm | |
| Well the guy assures me that they were a new african species (tarantulabarn stall) and new to the trade. He is really well connected so I have little reason to doubt him and his african collector/exporter
I recall my female H.Paucadins having the larger (longer) peds, longer body and small tail in comparison to the male. the males tail was extremely long and a more stumpy body. And these look to be similar traits in these pseudo hadogenes.
I will have a double check tomorrow with the camera but I got a glimps of the 'female' and the pectines were unbelievably small... As in had to double look to see them! However she is extremely aggressive so put her back pretty sharpish!!!!
They're defo not isometrus... the whole tail end structure is far to small for it to be a buthid, in fact the tail end looks rather pitiful in comparison to the scorpion size lol! Tell you what it does remind me of.... a troglodytes that has shrunk!!! |
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lycanlord Leiurus

Number of posts: 2871 Age: 23 Location: Barnsley Registration date: 2008-06-03
 | Subject: Re: Leeds Entomology Fair 9/28/2008, 12:25 pm | |
| you {censored} i new i should have gone damn you and your E.flavis i know where you live they will be mine |
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Mr. Mordax Administrator

Number of posts: 7741 Age: 26 Location: PNW Registration date: 2008-02-06
 | Subject: Re: Leeds Entomology Fair 9/28/2008, 12:35 pm | |
| Wait, wait -- I had a brain fart. I MEANT to say Iomachus, not Isometrus.  The point I'm getting at is that your male has such a tiny metasoma I can't see it being a Hadogenes sp.Iomachus: pic 1 pic 2 pic 3 _________________ If your emperor scorpion stops eating, don't panic. | My reviews | My Bug Pictures | My blog Be nice -- you were a noob once, too "Never ask an engineer to explain something, because he will."
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*Connie* Post-whore

Number of posts: 3705 Age: 28 Location: England Registration date: 2008-02-06
 | Subject: Re: Leeds Entomology Fair 9/28/2008, 12:35 pm | |
| how did the seller get a hold of the E. flav? i too also thought male had the longer chela, such as in longimanus the male has the long long chela... |
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*Connie* Post-whore

Number of posts: 3705 Age: 28 Location: England Registration date: 2008-02-06
 | Subject: Re: Leeds Entomology Fair 9/28/2008, 12:38 pm | |
| I have a female I Politus. Im after a male to do some breeding. She has already had a brood but that was at the shop. hmmm I should ask if they have the brood still but I would rather get an outside male
Anyhoo thats my input on the Iomachus
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lycanlord Leiurus

Number of posts: 2871 Age: 23 Location: Barnsley Registration date: 2008-06-03
 | Subject: Re: Leeds Entomology Fair 9/28/2008, 12:44 pm | |
| they were prbably wild caught i dont think i know anyone in europe that sells them lmao so i am amazed |
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LadyRiotControl Leiurus

Number of posts: 2631 Age: 33 Location: West Yorkshire, England Registration date: 2008-07-12
 | Subject: Re: Leeds Entomology Fair 9/28/2008, 12:49 pm | |
| I may have had a brain fart too then lol... it's been a few years since i had them and i have lost nearly all the pictures i had of them, just going on my senile memory lol. It says on the box... pseudo Hadogenus... not hadogenes i do apologise (been a long day) Does that make any difference at all? Looking at those pictures i will stand corrected and inclined to agree they are Iomachus sp. And i have got it the wrong way around (man they have tiny pectines then lol) Only difference is that the peds on mine appear to be a lot smoother than the iomachus politus. Feel a total plonker now  |
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*Connie* Post-whore

Number of posts: 3705 Age: 28 Location: England Registration date: 2008-02-06
 | Subject: Re: Leeds Entomology Fair 9/28/2008, 12:52 pm | |
| To me, they look like I Politus. To ME!...I might be wrong but I have no idea what this thing on the box is meant to mean...infact it seems pretty made up because these are not...NEW to the trade really. Kinda rare but not new to it. Also known as the Long claw. I bought in mistake my I Politus thinking it was a longimanus scorpling since in the shop they only use terms like "long claw, cave claw, african black scorpion, banded flat rock etc etc".... I didnt look in the shop at the time and then had a shock when I got home! hahaha I thought the "long claw" would be a refrence to longimanus ....anyhoo! |
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