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PostSubject: CANT ID THIS SCORPION FROM SONORA CA   9/1/2008, 4:37 pm


HI,i live in sonora,ca,and i found a scorpion in my laundry room.under the soap box.i think she is very cool!i have fed her bugs,and she seems ok,but i have no idea what kind she is.she looks like the arizona bark,but she is a very dark brown,even black.she is fast as the wind,so i am shocked she let me catch her.her tail is skinny,and her pinchers are slender.any ideas?thank you


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PostSubject: Re: CANT ID THIS SCORPION FROM SONORA CA   9/1/2008, 4:39 pm

got a picture?
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PostSubject: Re: CANT ID THIS SCORPION FROM SONORA CA   9/1/2008, 4:41 pm

SHE IS AT HOME,IM AT A FRIENDS,I WILL TAKE ONE ASAP
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PostSubject: Re: CANT ID THIS SCORPION FROM SONORA CA   9/1/2008, 4:43 pm

I ALSO forgot to say that she is very small,about 3 inches.
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PostSubject: Re: CANT ID THIS SCORPION FROM SONORA CA   9/1/2008, 4:45 pm

Could be a centruroides vittatus, or a Centruroides sculpturus gertschi
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PostSubject: Re: CANT ID THIS SCORPION FROM SONORA CA   9/1/2008, 4:45 pm

good. sounds to me like Centruroides gracilis
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PostSubject: Re: CANT ID THIS SCORPION FROM SONORA CA   9/1/2008, 4:47 pm

ok,im blonde,i have been informed,as of now,that 12 inches is really only 6 inches,so that means she is 1 1/2.(and to think all this time...i never hade the legal limit ,EVER!(FISHING)
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PostSubject: Re: CANT ID THIS SCORPION FROM SONORA CA   9/1/2008, 4:49 pm

SPELLING >HAD< SORRY
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PostSubject: Re: CANT ID THIS SCORPION FROM SONORA CA   9/1/2008, 4:49 pm

Isn't Gracilis in East coast?
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PostSubject: Re: CANT ID THIS SCORPION FROM SONORA CA   9/1/2008, 4:49 pm

wouldnt know...just fits the description...
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PostSubject: Re: CANT ID THIS SCORPION FROM SONORA CA   9/1/2008, 4:52 pm

wait for the opinion of kejser, mike, eddy ect. (the experienced pros)
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PostSubject: Re: CANT ID THIS SCORPION FROM SONORA CA   9/1/2008, 4:57 pm

DOES THE arizona bark only come in one color,?
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PostSubject: Re: CANT ID THIS SCORPION FROM SONORA CA   9/1/2008, 5:00 pm

I think it comes in a few colour morphs.
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PostSubject: Re: CANT ID THIS SCORPION FROM SONORA CA   9/1/2008, 5:02 pm

also,my guy got back from IRAC ABOUT 2 years ago.his stuff has been in the laundry room,and,last year i remember about 3 baby scorpions down there.but i wasnt in to it"then.so they could have come from over sea's?via trunks?
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PostSubject: Re: CANT ID THIS SCORPION FROM SONORA CA   9/1/2008, 5:04 pm

chevyoffroadez wrote:
also,my guy got back from IRAC ABOUT 2 years ago.his stuff has been in the laundry room,and,last year i remember about 3 baby scorpions down there.but i wasnt in to it"then.so they could have come from over sea's?via trunks?


yes, i've heard of a few soldiers bringing back beasties in clothes, bags, etc. I also think some try to sneak some home for thier collection. Razz I deffinetly would.
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PostSubject: Re: CANT ID THIS SCORPION FROM SONORA CA   9/1/2008, 5:57 pm

Get a pic and we can help you out alot better than taking guesses
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PostSubject: Re: CANT ID THIS SCORPION FROM SONORA CA   9/1/2008, 6:30 pm

A pic for sure would help a LOT. California is home to more species of scorpion than any other state in the US.

-- C. gracilis is restricted to the SE when it occurs in the US
-- C. scupturatus, the Arizona bark, does indeed come in two colorforms (one is solid orange, one is striped like C. vittatus but lacking the intraocular "burgler's mask")
-- It's entirely possible something came home from Iraq, but as the Middle East is home to some of the world's most venomous scorpions, I would advise exercising EXTREME caution with this specimen until we get it IDed.

Thread moved to the ID forum, even though there's no pictures (yet).

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PostSubject: Re: CANT ID THIS SCORPION FROM SONORA CA   9/2/2008, 8:42 am

If its a Iraqi scorpion i whould be carefull, does have really potent venom..

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PostSubject: Re: CANT ID THIS SCORPION FROM SONORA CA   9/4/2008, 4:32 pm

i have a pictureeeeeeeeee!how do i put it up??? Bang Head :headbang:ok,that said my file type ,(your kind aint wanted around here boy)thats what it said ,..


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PostSubject: Re: CANT ID THIS SCORPION FROM SONORA CA   9/4/2008, 4:52 pm

Just above the Quick-reply box in the bottom on the forum there is alot of buttons, there is one thats called Image, if you click on that it will let you upload a picture from your pc to the forum, all you need to do is upload it and post the url string it posts back to you Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: CANT ID THIS SCORPION FROM SONORA CA   9/4/2008, 8:09 pm

chevyoffroadez wrote:
i have a pictureeeeeeeeee!how do i put it up??? Bang Head :headbang:ok,that said my file type ,(your kind aint wanted around here boy)thats what it said ,..
LOL, you can host the picture of the scorpion through your Photobucket account or to the Img hosting site we have here. you click this button on the top right and sign up (it only takes five minute and you never have to do it again) then you host your file and it should give you a number of urls click the one way at the bottom (starts with http://) and copy it. Then you click this little button right here again on the top right and click OK you should get some code that looks like this

[ img ]http//fakeurl.com[/img]
click SEND and your picture should be up.


ON A SIDE NOTE, I DOUBT THAT ITS A CENTROIDE SPECIES. MOST LIKELY A VAJOVID.
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PostSubject: chevyoffroadez sonora ca   9/6/2008, 11:42 pm

[img][/img]what is it daddy , what is ist daddy?can we touch it and hug ??hun?hun?can we???? lol!
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PostSubject: Re: CANT ID THIS SCORPION FROM SONORA CA   9/7/2008, 12:15 am

from the blurry picture it looks to be a Hadogenes paucidens or an olive keelded flat rock scorpion to me. Anyone else see it too? there venom is VERY mild, Eddy, a keeper on this forum describes it as a numbness of the finger BUT it has VERY powerful claws. your gonna want to keep the temp up and humidity low. and stack some flat rocks on top of each other so he has some cracks to squeeze his skinny little body through.
As for holding it. this species will not hesitate to pinch you, HARD!

Its weird how it ended up in your laundry room though, they are from Africa. Not the middle east.
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PostSubject: Re: CANT ID THIS SCORPION FROM SONORA CA   9/7/2008, 2:46 am

Definitely not Hadogenes. That genus has a much thinner metasoma. It doesn't look like any Middle Eastern species I'm aware of.

A better picture would make things easier -- also, a size reference would help. I'm going to flip through what I know occurs in California and see what I can't turn up.

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PostSubject: Re: CANT ID THIS SCORPION FROM SONORA CA   9/7/2008, 2:56 am

Possibilities:

Anuroctonus pococki

Pseudouroctonus sp.

Uroctonites sp.

Uroctonus mordax <-- my favorite species Razz

These may give you something to go by -- let us know where these scorps are similar / different to your own, or post a clearer picture. Smile

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