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PostSubject: Gravid Bothriurus sp.?   8/29/2008, 8:31 pm

I'm pretty sure that my WC Bothriurus sp. I got from Adam Jansen is gravid. I fed her a few days ago and she looks like she got even fatter ( taller + wider ) and I think I can see little yellow embryos through her membrane. It's so hard to tell because this sp. is so small... I would take pics, but the cam that I use doesn't take very good macro shots and for the life of me I can't get a good pic.

Does she sound gravid to you? What's the brood size of this sp.?
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PostSubject: Re: Gravid Bothriurus sp.?   8/30/2008, 3:58 am

She very well could be as she is WC.
The best test to "know" is for her to refuse food for ages and to still get bigger and bigger.

No idea on brood size. I presume a pretty good size!
Im seen some small scorpions in pictures with their brood on back and then piling intop of each other and hanging off the tail as there isnt much back space
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PostSubject: Re: Gravid Bothriurus sp.?   8/30/2008, 8:43 am

Ohhhh they refuse food when they're gravid. Didn't know that!

I hope she is. She'll be my first Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Gravid Bothriurus sp.?   8/30/2008, 8:50 am

i think it depends on how close they get to blowing the brood, because they need some enegery to make the little ones, so i think they accept food up too they blow the brood.

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PostSubject: Re: Gravid Bothriurus sp.?   8/30/2008, 9:37 am

Well, as I've said, I've just noticed her getting taller + wider, so I think you may be right, Kejser Smile

This is gonna be SO freaking cool if she is preggo! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Gravid Bothriurus sp.?   8/30/2008, 11:39 am

I hope so and sounds promising. My U.Granulatus are about an inch long so its hard to tell with my female. Roll on new macro lenses next week! So I can sympathise with the posting a picture predicament!

But going off food or just eating small amounts from time to time can be a good indication. Blocking themselves into burrows can also be another indicator.

Fingers crossed for ya hun
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PostSubject: Re: Gravid Bothriurus sp.?   8/30/2008, 1:15 pm

Ya she's about 1.5" overall. Pretty small. About the size of my 4i B. jacksoni ( think they're 4i... ).

I fed her a medium-sized cricket about 4-days-ago. I took notice of how fat she got after eating it and I'm pretty sure she's as big, if not bigger than before.

I wish I could afford a decent cam with some nice lenses so I could take some sweet macro shots. That would own Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Gravid Bothriurus sp.?   8/30/2008, 3:39 pm

I might be missing something here

Are you not used to scorpions gaining weight after eating?
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PostSubject: Re: Gravid Bothriurus sp.?   8/30/2008, 4:17 pm

Well my female refused food for 4 months, ate a small cricket. went 2 months and then BANG babies...

So I think they eat eat eat and then the meals become smaller and smaller until nothing and then they birth.
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PostSubject: Re: Gravid Bothriurus sp.?   8/31/2008, 3:31 pm

Some macros:




What do you guys think?

Mods: If you feel the need to, move this to the pics forum.

@Canth: Sorry, I'm not as knowledgeable as some people when it comes to scorpions, so I could be wrong... I only have 9 atm. I got my first scorp @ the beginning of last winter. I got my first 'real' scorps about 2-months-ago ( 5 B. jacksoni's and the one in this thread.. along with 2 big emps ).
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PostSubject: Re: Gravid Bothriurus sp.?   8/31/2008, 5:00 pm

If that's an adult, I'd sure think it's gravid.

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PostSubject: Re: Gravid Bothriurus sp.?   8/31/2008, 5:14 pm

the first picture has a white blob visible thru membrane and the second shows the spinal cord well... I'd say you have a gravid.
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PostSubject: Re: Gravid Bothriurus sp.?   8/31/2008, 5:44 pm

YES! gravid im sure of it!
I mean...come on! look at her...and spinal cord etc
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PostSubject: Re: Gravid Bothriurus sp.?   8/31/2008, 10:42 pm

Awesome!!!!!!!! Very Happy

I posted this over @ AB and they all said she looks gravid as well. I can see little yellowish things through the membrane.. but barely.

I can't wait Very Happy

Oh, and earlier, when I was going to take her out of the KK, she got very aggressive. She never was before.
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PostSubject: Re: Gravid Bothriurus sp.?   9/1/2008, 5:22 am

Well my smp looks like that , only more elongated as well!
She looks just like a bigger version of a newborn scorpling... Proper fit to pop!

That the thing i love about this forum, i get excited for other people who have gravids.... and there's sooo many people on here with them (or just popped!)
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PostSubject: Re: Gravid Bothriurus sp.?   9/1/2008, 6:23 am

So they just get real big all of a sudden like that and pop shortly after? Surprised
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PostSubject: Re: Gravid Bothriurus sp.?   9/1/2008, 12:57 pm

Sometimes the popping takes a long time and sometimes its very quick!

I think it depends on how many are inside too as to how big she will get.

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PostSubject: Re: Gravid Bothriurus sp.?   9/1/2008, 3:17 pm

Ohh okay Smile

She just ate a small mealworm. About 1/2". Didn't wanna feed her too much b/c I'm trying to keep an eye on her size.
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PostSubject: Re: Gravid Bothriurus sp.?   9/2/2008, 8:41 am

The embryos are a lot more noticable now! I have no clue what to do after she pops... Hopefully the dry environment is OK with the large bottle cap of water. I wet one corner of the substrate about 1-2 times per month.
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PostSubject: Re: Gravid Bothriurus sp.?   9/2/2008, 3:32 pm

bjaeger wrote:
I have no clue what to do after she pops

As with every other species out there . . .

Pretend you don't own a scorpion for a week or two! Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Gravid Bothriurus sp.?   9/2/2008, 3:45 pm

She hasnt birthed just yet and besides...you could have a little while longer to wait!
When it happens, get that nice surpise and then forget about her and the babies for a week to 10 days. then take a peek and see what the situation is

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PostSubject: Re: Gravid Bothriurus sp.?   9/3/2008, 5:10 am

So I should forget about them and not give them water for 1-2 weeks? Lol. I guess with one corner of the KK damp, they should be fine?

It's going to be hard trying not to peek at them everyday >.>

Thanks Mike and Connie Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Gravid Bothriurus sp.?   9/4/2008, 3:15 am

Just keep doing what you are already doing.
When they are born just keep doing what you are already doing...but...thats just putting in water when need be.
But more often then not, dont bother them and mum. It will be fine!
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PostSubject: Re: Gravid Bothriurus sp.?   9/4/2008, 9:18 am

It was weird when I looked in b/c she was hanging upside-down from the cork bark like a bark scorpion would... Is that some kind of sign? lol
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