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PostSubject: Scorpling Moltings   8/6/2008, 9:45 pm

my babies have started molting!






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PostSubject: Re: Scorpling Moltings   8/6/2008, 9:50 pm

awesome, i love the way there molts look i dont know why but i do
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpling Moltings   8/7/2008, 11:07 am

awww shame you had no "im process" of moulting pics, if you did you could enter them into the contest!
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpling Moltings   8/7/2008, 2:33 pm

i just picked up the burrow to see if they were eating n e of the crickets and it was sitting right next to the skin so i removed the crickets till later today
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpling Moltings   8/7/2008, 3:05 pm

give them a few more days, maybe a week and then put in some crickets
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpling Moltings   8/8/2008, 8:21 am

cool! so they are 4i now?
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpling Moltings   8/8/2008, 10:26 pm

no there 2i and 3i
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpling Moltings   8/8/2008, 10:58 pm

Lookin' good. Cool Those side-by-side shots are cool.

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PostSubject: Re: Scorpling Moltings   8/14/2008, 12:05 pm

so all the babies i have sold to my friends have molted except for the two out of three i am keeping for my own... i want to raise them Laughing.

so hats a bonus so far STILL only one casualty and that was Mr. I didn't want to survive the molt into 2I. (but provided a good first meal for the babies)
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpling Moltings   8/14/2008, 12:08 pm

are these heterometrus babies? or Pandinus?
I cant fully tell. the chela look smooth but I cant rememeber if you recent brood was heterometrus...

sorry I forgot Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpling Moltings   8/14/2008, 12:12 pm

Pandinus. Would be super cool if they were hybrid. did your pandinus scorplings look the same
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpling Moltings   8/14/2008, 12:20 pm

ok. so my bad. this thread is in the pandinus section. Its just the chela in your pics look smooth. Mine to the naked eye have visable bumps on the chela from 2I...very small...but there none the less there
Its just the picture and the angle which made me think it wasnt pandinus babies.

Sorry for the confusion!

Im glad they are doing ok. I tell you, its such a wait from 4I into 5I...but since they are 6 months old...a bit longer to go until 5I and then 6th!
I know I have a long way to go and still a good few of mine having even gone to 4I yet. are going to be soon im sure but not just yet!
They are all at different stages in their development and not all moulting together. A constant waiting game!
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpling Moltings   8/15/2008, 10:09 am

electrophyste wrote:
Would be super cool if they were hybrid.

Careful where you say that, or you'll get flamed.

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PostSubject: Re: Scorpling Moltings   8/19/2008, 5:13 pm

lol
sorry my bad
my buddy supposedly has a imperator/longimanus hybrid.
he said there were only 3 female imperators and one male longmanus in the enclosure

But anywho
Just Updating everyone another 2i is now a 3i
so I guess im doing something right this time:D
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpling Moltings   8/19/2008, 5:28 pm

I still have a load of 3I waiting to turn 3I. thats the thing about having a group, some do it faster and it makes you think "COME ON!" hehehehe

How many do you have?
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpling Moltings   8/19/2008, 6:09 pm

electrophyste wrote:
my buddy supposedly has a imperator/longimanus hybrid.
he said there were only 3 female imperators and one male longmanus in the enclosure

Then his female emps were probably WC gravid.

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PostSubject: Re: Scorpling Moltings   8/20/2008, 12:11 pm

So there is no way it could have happend????
if so then im SOOO happy that I get to burst his bubble two days in a row
yesterday he bought an "asian forest scorpion" and guess what he bought.... an P.Imp..... talk about an expensive emp!
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpling Moltings   8/20/2008, 5:03 pm

blimey!
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpling Moltings   8/21/2008, 10:09 am

The problems with hybridizing ANY animal are finding species that have compatible genetalia -- or in the case of scorpions, spermataphores and genital opercula. If a male H. longimanus spermataphore's shape is not compatible with a female P. imperator's genital operculum, hybridization would be impossible.

This unliklihood is compounded by the fact that not only is your friend dealing with two different species, he's dealing with two different genera. A classic hybrid example, the mule, is a hybrid of Equus caballus and E. asinus -- two species from one genus. The only confirmed hybrids I've heard of in the arachnid world were offspring whose parents were both Brachypelma species of tarantula (as well as possible "natural" hybrids of Avicularia spp. occurring in the wild). Both of those cases, like the mule, were from species within the same genus.

The only way he could be absolutely sure that they were hybrids would be if the female emps molted to maturity IN HIS CARE and AWAY from any male emperors.

If they gave birth in any period of time LESS than 18 months in his care, it's HIGHLY unlikely the offspring were hybrids.

You can go ahead and quote this post in its entirety if you'd like, and mention that I'm going into my fifth undergraduate year as a student in bioengineering, with a healthy background in biology, biochemistry, and entomology.

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PostSubject: Re: Scorpling Moltings   8/21/2008, 11:19 am

damn mike! how long did it take you to type that?
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpling Moltings   8/21/2008, 1:34 pm

I wasn't paying attention. Probably 'bout five minutes.

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PostSubject: Re: Scorpling Moltings   8/21/2008, 1:52 pm

Thanks Mike ill let him no.... hes stuborn and wont believe me n e ways but i thinnk it will be funny to know the truth
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpling Moltings   8/21/2008, 4:04 pm

If you can, find out the necessary details:

-- When he acquired each scorpion
-- When they were cohabited
-- When the female(s) gave birth
-- If any of them molted in his care

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PostSubject: Re: Scorpling Moltings   8/21/2008, 6:16 pm

He really needs to listen to the advice you give him. Chances are she was bread in the wild.
I doubt in transport they feel 100% comfortable to mate. I guess in "stops" they could if any. But as Mike said, Pandinus and Heterometrus mating...in such a situation are very slim.
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PostSubject: Re: Scorpling Moltings   8/22/2008, 10:39 am

Yah but hes stubborn too. he has a book about scorpions. Its like one you would buy from a pet shop on basic care kinda thing. He goes by it like its his bible. THE BOOK IS CRAP! L've browsed through.
-DONT LEAVE BABIES WITH MOM SHE WILL EAT THEM
-ITS EVEN HARD FOR SOMEONE WHO STUDIES SCORPIONS TO SEX THEM

oh i almost forgot.
the book also said Hets were more poisoness the babycirus!

all i have to say about that book is its not worth the wiping with.

I tried to get him to come here but he wont I think hes afraid to be proven wrong kinda thing.. one of those "Im always right"
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