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PostSubject: Re: Everyone can help me out :D   7/16/2008, 10:14 am

Here it is:

http://oregonstate.edu/~reitmajm/BioE%20499%20Final%20Paper.docx


It's in *docx format, so if you don't have Word 2007, you'll need to download the converter from Microsoft.

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PostSubject: Re: Everyone can help me out :D   7/16/2008, 1:40 pm

that should make for some interesting reading later Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Everyone can help me out :D   7/17/2008, 3:26 am

this is a good litlle chunk of infromation

The scorpion Leiurus quinquestriatus hebraeus carries a number of very potent neurotoxins which act to block sodium and potassium channels in the body (4). While this action is the key to the mechanism of the poison, pharmaceutical companies have expressed interest in how the toxin might be used in medicine. Because these channels have been linked to the regulation of insulin in the body, there may be some use of this toxin to treat diabetics. The toxin appears to lend itself to applications other than its natural function. Claudio Vita and colleagues in France have taken advantage of the physical structure of the toxin to engineer molecules with "different biological properties," essentially using the stability of the folding structure to build other molecules
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PostSubject: Re: Everyone can help me out :D   7/17/2008, 9:33 am

For those who don't have a background in biochemistry, the molecules are so stable because of the disulfide bonds. Proteins are simply a chain of amino acids, and disulfide bonds link parts of the chain that aren't close in sequence to give it a tight, "solid" structure. Proteins without these bonds can sort of "come undone" when they are heated or exposed to very high or low pH. With these bonds, proteins may loosen a little bit, but they usually retain structure and thus functionality.

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PostSubject: Re: Everyone can help me out :D   7/17/2008, 11:32 am

i seriously need to back to college.. too many years bringing up kids has turned my brain to mush!!!! I get the general jist of this but its all way out of my league... interesting nontheless. Stuff like this might just kick start my head into college mode again.
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PostSubject: Re: Everyone can help me out :D   7/17/2008, 11:37 am

Didnt he state " I need any type of info you have on scorpions,and by this i mean not google stuff,I want random bits(fun facts,history...you get my point) of info on scorps."

Come on people, get off google and post YOUR info, im super interested
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PostSubject: Re: Everyone can help me out :D   7/17/2008, 11:47 am

IHeartMantids wrote:
For those who don't have a background in biochemistry, the molecules are so stable because of the disulfide bonds. Proteins are simply a chain of amino acids, and disulfide bonds link parts of the chain that aren't close in sequence to give it a tight, "solid" structure. Proteins without these bonds can sort of "come undone" when they are heated or exposed to very high or low pH. With these bonds, proteins may loosen a little bit, but they usually retain structure and thus functionality.


Dude read your own Sig... need i say more Very Happy heheh man that was some werid stuff mate Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Everyone can help me out :D   7/17/2008, 12:09 pm

if that was at me connie yeah that info came from google but it is something i was aware of, just like most of you will be aware of the whole using for cancer, i just couldnt put it into words easily.
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PostSubject: Re: Everyone can help me out :D   7/17/2008, 12:11 pm

Not aimed at anyone in an *attack* way.
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PostSubject: Re: Everyone can help me out :D   7/18/2008, 4:04 am

I think this is an awesome thread... because anyone coming into the hobby and stumbles on this page has sooooo many facts and story's about in one thread. Especially the cancer thing, put into laymens its a lot easier to understand!

But yeah connie i think we need some more story's of what people have seen their scorpion do, weird behaviour etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Everyone can help me out :D   7/18/2008, 5:27 am

i didnt mean that in a nasty way connie sorry lol ill make that clear now, dont want a silly half argument like the missunderstanding in i6 lmao lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Everyone can help me out :D   7/18/2008, 1:39 pm

A certain scorpion (tytius) had her scorpions taken away and put on another, but the scorplings rejected her.

When the non-mother was covered with mother scent the scorplings remained on her.

When scorplings where covered with different scent, mother rejected them.

Scorplings absorb water through their mother's pores on her back.

There are two types of ways different scorpions develop. One feeds directly through mouth which develops early, the other develops slowly and feeds through something(I forgt)

They don't have one mass central nervous system(BRAIN) they have ganglions spread out, I believe it's seven of them. I believe 7 in total, 5 mesasoma and 3 in the metasoma.

Hmmm....
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PostSubject: Re: Everyone can help me out :D   7/18/2008, 2:43 pm

I thought the scorplings absorbing moisture from the mother theory wasn't 100% proven, or has it been proved since i was last kept scorpions. Not a dig just curiousity Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Everyone can help me out :D   7/18/2008, 5:09 pm

I read it in that book.
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PostSubject: Re: Everyone can help me out :D   7/18/2008, 5:23 pm

lol ok then. I cant remember where i read it now, but i know at the time i read it there was a lot of discussion about the theory. but that was about 6 years ago.
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PostSubject: Re: Everyone can help me out :D   7/19/2008, 3:27 am

I have read about the scent before. I turely believe thats why they dont eat their young but will happily eat someone elses.
Ive never tried it, since only had one brood and no other female...and also dont want to lose anyone hehe
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