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PostSubject: Re: Black fat tailed?   7/4/2008, 12:00 pm

http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/a_crassicauda_kuwait3.jpg check that picture out..

then check this out, this is telson of a Androctonus mauritanicus bourdoni http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/a_mauritanicus_cauda1.jpg if we base it on telson it chould be a Androctonus mauritanicus bourdoni .. but 1 thing for sure we need more and better picures..
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PostSubject: Re: Black fat tailed?   7/4/2008, 12:10 pm

ill try to get some better angles when it comes out tonight. whats the difference between a bicolor and a Androctonus crassicauda? they both look exactly the same to me
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PostSubject: Re: Black fat tailed?   7/4/2008, 12:46 pm

I believe there keels are different and crassicauda is typically a brownish color.
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PostSubject: Re: Black fat tailed?   7/4/2008, 1:17 pm

hard to tell if the tell is really fat or not. We need better pics
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PostSubject: Re: Black fat tailed?   7/5/2008, 5:32 pm

Shasta wrote:
ill try to get some better angles when it comes out tonight. whats the difference between a bicolor and a Androctonus crassicauda? they both look exactly the same to me
The difference is in their metasoma and chela. A.bicolor have thin chela and A.crassicauda have bulbous chela.

A.bicolor metasoma http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/a_bicolor4.jpg and A.crassicauda metasoma http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/a_crassicauda_UAE.jpg . Compare the 3rd and 4th segment plus A.bicolor metasoma looks round.
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PostSubject: Re: Black fat tailed?   7/5/2008, 5:44 pm

Can you take better pics of your scorpion? I don't wanna start calling it names without better pics.
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PostSubject: Re: Black fat tailed?   7/6/2008, 2:06 am

i was only able to get one picture tonight. hopefully this angle can give a little more information about it

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PostSubject: Re: Black fat tailed?   7/6/2008, 2:33 am

The tail looks a little thin to me but I'd say A. bicolor by the color of the pinchers.
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PostSubject: Re: Black fat tailed?   7/7/2008, 8:31 am

If that's an Androctonus spp. then you have Androctonus crassicauda. afro

The metasoma alone gives it away that it's not A.bicolor Very Happy.
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PostSubject: Re: Black fat tailed?   7/16/2008, 2:13 am

the scorpion doesnt seem to like to pose for me. every time i get a picture it looks pretty much the same but i figured i would post them anyway along with an update. its been about two and a half weeks since i bought the scorpion and both of us are still alive, so thats always a plus. it seems to be doing well, it hides all day, comes out at night, burrows. one thing i find kind of weird is that it barely goes to the other side of the tank, but i guess thats just it being territorial. i seen it hunt and eat a cricket last week and it was one of the coolest things ive ever seen. hope these pictures can help out some.

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PostSubject: Re: Black fat tailed?   7/16/2008, 3:09 pm

im guessing androctonus bicolor.
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PostSubject: Re: Black fat tailed?   7/16/2008, 5:06 pm

Hi,

Not A.bicolor. I agree with quiz and say that it's an A.crassicauda.


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PostSubject: Re: Black fat tailed?   7/16/2008, 5:29 pm

hmm.... its a hard one this.
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PostSubject: Re: Black fat tailed?   8/20/2008, 12:17 am

This possibly a silly question but is something which no-one has brought up.

How do you know its from Israel ?
Just because the shop said so ?
I'm sure that the shops in the US are very much like the shops in the UK and that they usually havent a clue where things come from. They get stock from the wholesaler and take their word about where their stock comes from.

I have very little knowledge on the ID of scorions apart from the more common species but it looks like a Parabuthus transvaalicus to my untutored eyes.
I know that it comes from S africa and also from Tanzania but I also do know that in the UK at least, shipments from Tanzania and Egypt are available at the same time from the same wholesalers.
Maybe a mix-up at the wholesaler ?

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PostSubject: Re: Black fat tailed?   8/20/2008, 3:51 am

I would guess Hottentotta judaicus or Androctonus mauritanicus, most likely a H.judaicus because of the metasoma and the color of the pedipalps Smile

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PostSubject: reply   9/1/2008, 5:02 pm

A.Bicolor
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PostSubject: Re: Black fat tailed?   9/23/2008, 3:18 pm

ive been pretty busy lately so i havent been able to really get on this site. anyway the scorpion is still alive and well. i have a couple pictures that i can try and upload when i get the chance. i was thinking of either buying the same species from the same shop or maybe buying a different kind, it was a small red one and i think the lid said like "red bark scorpion" or something along those lines. it seemed pretty calm and not aggressive or active at all
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PostSubject: Re: Black fat tailed?   9/23/2008, 5:55 pm

Probably a B. jacksonii
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PostSubject: Re: Black fat tailed?   9/24/2008, 3:10 pm

yeah that does look pretty similar. the guy was saying that it was a desert species though..but he even admitted he didnt know too much about scorpions and the guy that did wasnt working that day.
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PostSubject: Re: Black fat tailed?   9/24/2008, 7:41 pm

According to petshops all scopions are desert species. Theres no red desert species that i know of.
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PostSubject: Re: Black fat tailed?   9/24/2008, 11:43 pm

i used to think that too actually back in the day. but i guess a B. jacksoni it is then. would the caring be pretty much the same as an emperor?
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