about two days ago i bought a new scorpion. on the little container it came in it said "Israeli Fat Tailed" the guy told me it was pretty venomous and when i got home i tried looking it up online. the only thing i can find was the black fat tailed scorpion, and all the sites say its one of the most deadly in the world. im gonna try and get pics up as soon as i can but until then i was wondering if anybody can tell me if the Israeli Fat Tailed and Black fat tailed are the same thing.

Thanks

its probably a type of androctonus.
check the scorpion files and see if you can find a match
post a pic

how about an androctonus bicolor??
---> http://www.ub.ntnu.no/scorpion-files/a_bicolor6.jpg <---

yeah it does look a lot like that one actually. ive only seen it like twice since i had it. its fast, small, and real aggressive too if that helps the description at all

if it gets out you are in real trouble.
are you an expert keeper and what have you kept before??

i wouldnt say im an expert but ive read up a lot on scorpions and know not to handle ones like this. i doubt it would get out of the cage since its a 10 gallon. ive only had emperors but from the sound of it this new one is a lot different from them

yea...the only thing that is the same with these and the emperors is that they are scorpions and they are black.
if you get stung you will be in hospital for a long time.
i would say give it back to the shop.

Without pics I don't think anyone can properly ID it. It might be an A. mauritanicus, A. bicolor... Or maybe even H. judiacus. Like it was said, be careful. In my eye, if you are mature and serious about your caretaking role and you have taken care of scorpions with success in the past then you probably won't have a problem with this guy. Just remember it "could" potentially take your life. If you do not want that on your shoulders then I would return it just to be safe. As far as care, what sort of substrate and temp/humidity are you using? It is going to be a desert species so I hope that you are not keeping it like your Emps.

i think im gonna keep it. i have everything for tank cleaning too, forceps, thick gloves, and all that stuff. i was planning on getting a hairy desert scorpion because its not very venomous and more active and aggressive than emperors but the shop didnt have any. the guy said if i was looking for something active to get the fat tail. he said it was pretty venomous but i didnt know it was that bad. i asked him what kind of substrate to use and he gave me a bag of like coconut bark. the scorpion seems happy with it and burrows. the temperature is at 85 and the humidity is 43 at the moment

Or an A.Crauissanda(sp), some paributhus specie, hottentetta

i managed to get some pictures just now but they arent very clear.

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll164/mike17844/scorp.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll164/mike17844/scorp1.jpg

thick gloves wont help you alot, if he really wants to get you he will.. best thing is to just use the forceps to locate him then take a plastic container and put over him so he cant run anywere you dont want him too.. now you can work safely in his home..

I don't think we can get a positive ID from those photos, other than it doesn't look like an Androctonus sp.. I might offer a tentative guess towards H. judaicus, though.

Don't think you have to return something because it's "hot" -- just exercise good common sense.

That substrate looks more like bark chips. I'd change it out for dry coco fiber with an available water dish until we get an ID nailed down.