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PostSubject: Are P.Trans communal?   Are P.Trans communal? Empty1/23/2009, 1:49 am

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PostSubject: Re: Are P.Trans communal?   Are P.Trans communal? Empty1/23/2009, 10:20 am

from what ive read is that the answer would be NO
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PostSubject: Re: Are P.Trans communal?   Are P.Trans communal? Empty1/23/2009, 11:49 am

That's what most caresheets say, but one guy said he was able to keep them communal.

Hmmmm
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PostSubject: Re: Are P.Trans communal?   Are P.Trans communal? Empty1/23/2009, 12:05 pm

"They're always communal until they're not."

How long was one guy keeping them like that?
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PostSubject: Re: Are P.Trans communal?   Are P.Trans communal? Empty1/23/2009, 12:19 pm

I have no idea.
I guess they're not.
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PostSubject: Re: Are P.Trans communal?   Are P.Trans communal? Empty1/23/2009, 12:28 pm

Juveniles are not communal.
Adults are communal if you provide enough food. They even share hides in my experience. You can keep 1.1 or 2.0 (or more males) together but don't try to keep more then one female in the same enclousure. That never worked for me, females are very aggressive to other females.
There are always some exceptions, ie. a super aggressive male/female which can't be kept with others. You will notice if you have such a specimen immediately after putting them together in one tank.
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PostSubject: Re: Are P.Trans communal?   Are P.Trans communal? Empty1/23/2009, 12:35 pm

Thanks. They're all still 2i so I got a while to go.

What would be considered well fed?
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PostSubject: Re: Are P.Trans communal?   Are P.Trans communal? Empty1/23/2009, 3:01 pm

ha always keeping food in BUT then even with that being done they still decide to munch on tank mates!
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PostSubject: Re: Are P.Trans communal?   Are P.Trans communal? Empty1/23/2009, 4:33 pm

Hmmmmm.... Maybe I should just divide the tanks.
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PostSubject: Re: Are P.Trans communal?   Are P.Trans communal? Empty1/23/2009, 4:46 pm

well fed would be definied as not hungry enough to feel like taking on an a roomate that is roughly yor size, and potentially deadly to you. communal is definitely out, and even though many people cite scorpions like smeringus and hadrurus as communal, this is an error in word choice. basically the most you can hope for is a micro colony. communal implies a social existence amongst unrelated independant individuals. the most anyone can ask for in these setups are a group of scorpions content enough to leave eachother alone. they will never interact the way some errant scorpions like bark buthids do, as this is not their nature. the only thing a person attempting this is doing is creating almost a duplex or apartment building type setup where many creatures occupy the same enclosure, each setting up its own individual territory. the majority of scorpions only interact for mating, or predation. if the scorpions are well fed enough on easier to ctch prey items, they are less likely to try to attack eachother, but even communal scorpions if hungry enough will often feed on conspecifics, and hungry or not almost any species of scorpion will gladly munch any smaller species it can catch. therefore if you want to keep any solitary scorpions in a group without them killin one another they must be given ample space to create their own territories if they wish to, and be given ample food to discourage cannibalism, though sometimes a gluttonous scorpion will just eat anything it can get its hands on regardless. in anycase, i would strongly reccomend never mixing any type of scorpion until they are mature, as all scorpions will gladly make a meal out of a moulting roomate.


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PostSubject: Re: Are P.Trans communal?   Are P.Trans communal? Empty1/23/2009, 4:53 pm

Yes, I am speaking in terms of adults.
No scorpion communal or not should be kept together when not mature.
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PostSubject: Re: Are P.Trans communal?   Are P.Trans communal? Empty1/23/2009, 5:54 pm

Venom wrote:

What would be considered well fed?

My Parabuthus spp. are fed once every 8-12 days. For each scorpion I throw one adult cricket into the enclosure. Adult males don't eat that much so the female often gets two crickets. When the female is highly gravid she won't eat and the crickets are still alive after 2-3 days. In that case I take the crickets out and don't feed the scorpions for a while.
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PostSubject: Re: Are P.Trans communal?   Are P.Trans communal? Empty1/23/2009, 9:40 pm

I just ordered 10 b. jacksoni that will be raised individually til adult. Apparently they are being kept in a communal tank, but I have read enough on here that I'm not willing to try it even if the dealer has been successful...the stress of shipping could be just enough to make them decide to dine on each other. Even as excited as I am about the communal tank, I really want to observe them each individually. That way I will hopefully know more about scorpions in general. The more I read...the more I start to think that there are only a few givens. That is part of what makes them so interesting. I just like it better when we have success stories...I get bummed when it doesn't work out so well. Good luck with which ever way you go. They do look like a fun scorpion.
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PostSubject: Re: Are P.Trans communal?   Are P.Trans communal? Empty10/24/2013, 11:07 pm


Seeing how things are with my pair, i was curious so i googled then this came out haha. Nice points for discussion though. I'll just keep the pair as they are Very Happy
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