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PostSubject: Most communal scorpion species???   10/20/2013, 10:19 pm

I was wondering what peoples opinions are on which ones are the most communal scorpion species???
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PostSubject: Re: Most communal scorpion species???   10/21/2013, 8:39 am

In my experience any of the bark scorps are very communal.  I'm from Texas and we have (among other scorps) the Centruroides vittatus native here.  They are VERY communal.  I have a communal tank and they always seem to prefer to be huddled up next to each other.

For something more exotic the Babycurus jacksoni (Tanzanian Rusty Thick Tail) scorps are very communal.  When you have a colony you will get a lot of babies though!  Also, Emps are very communal if you want a large scorp.  There are plenty others that will thrive communally but these are my experiences.
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PostSubject: Re: Most communal scorpion species???   10/21/2013, 10:56 am

Hands down T.stigmurus. No molt cannabalism and even group hunt. Not even centruroides species are as communal.
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PostSubject: Re: Most communal scorpion species???   10/21/2013, 11:20 am

Thanks guys (: I really appreciate it. Could most of these species live with several well in a 40 gallon breeder aquarium with lots of hides. I have a male and female emperor in a 40 gallon breeder, but I don't know if I would want to add more and if I did I guess it would have to be more females and all around the same size? Wont the males fight?
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PostSubject: Re: Most communal scorpion species???   10/21/2013, 11:39 am

For T.stimgurus there are no males all females and a 40 gal sounds to big for them maybe a 10 gal.
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PostSubject: Re: Most communal scorpion species???   10/21/2013, 12:23 pm

I have had a bunch of C. vits. living in a 10 gallon tank and they did fine.

I'm not familiar with the T. stimgurus but will look into them. Group hunts? That sounds cool! I would like to watch them hunt!
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PostSubject: Re: Most communal scorpion species???   10/21/2013, 1:33 pm

I assure you that given enough space and food most centruroides are cummunal as juevines (usually very communal as adults). But there are tons of cases of cannibalism during molts especially certain species such as C.gracilis. But T.stigmurus is THE perfect communal species. WHY?
1. They're beatifully colored
2.They're a hot species so power and beauty
3. They are parthenogentic, you only need one and you'll have a community in no time
4. They don't cannabilize, even if not fed for a while they just wont eat other.
5. Fast growing, keep the heat and humidity up and they'll mature in a year.
Case made....check mate...king me.....ect ect. !
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PostSubject: Re: Most communal scorpion species???   10/21/2013, 2:32 pm

Thank you so much for all the information. I am going to have to see if I can find any T. stigmurus
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PostSubject: Re: Most communal scorpion species???   10/21/2013, 11:41 pm

Weird , I experienced cannibalism in my really young T stigmurus .. so I separated them.
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PostSubject: Re: Most communal scorpion species???   10/22/2013, 9:30 am

I want some. Maybe one is best???
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PostSubject: Re: Most communal scorpion species???   10/22/2013, 10:37 am

~Abyss~ wrote:
Hands down T.stigmurus. No molt cannabalism and even group hunt. Not even centruroides species are as communal.
The most tolerant species ever. I've had them since second instar and even introduced one more from someone else. Not a single cannibalism, though they do fight over food. Which is practically the case with all communal species.

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PostSubject: Re: Most communal scorpion species???   10/22/2013, 10:58 am

same with t.serrulatus, t.confluens and t.trivittatus or parthenogenetic tityus spec. in general.
centruroides and babycurus are ok as adults but you should seperate them as juveniles.
pandinus and heterometrus are always very communal you can raise them in groups without any problems - even hottentotta trilineatus or hottentotta hottentotta can be raised together but make sure to have enough hideouts and food Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Most communal scorpion species???   10/22/2013, 2:51 pm

Does anyone have an estimate for how long it takes from when a T. stigmurus  is born to when she births her first litter? (Assuming good conditions.)
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PostSubject: Re: Most communal scorpion species???   10/22/2013, 3:48 pm

assuming that they could molt every month - they are able to give birth within a year
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PostSubject: Re: Most communal scorpion species???   10/22/2013, 7:04 pm

Tityus stigmurus, of what's available in the US hobby.
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PostSubject: Re: Most communal scorpion species???   10/23/2013, 5:01 pm

Wow thank you all for all the information (:
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PostSubject: Re: Most communal scorpion species???   10/24/2013, 12:50 am

Bananarama wrote:
same with t.serrulatus, t.confluens and t.trivittatus or parthenogenetic tityus spec. in general.
centruroides and babycurus are ok as adults but you should seperate them as juveniles.
pandinus and heterometrus are always very communal you can raise them in groups without any problems - even hottentotta trilineatus or hottentotta hottentotta can be raised together but make sure to have enough hideouts and food Very Happy
I doubt that with HH. I've kept a lot of broods together that were well-fed but still their instinct tells them to eat one another.

Heterometrus spinifer seems quite calm together. H.longimanus is always alert in a communal setting. I've noticed that the more the number of scorps kept communally in a corresponding larger enclosure, the lesser the risk of aggression and cannibalism as opposed to keeping a pair or trio together wherein territories and dominance are sometimes set
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