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PostSubject: 'Giant Hissing Scorpion' Heterometrus spp ID help   'Giant Hissing Scorpion' Heterometrus spp ID help Empty9/9/2013, 8:29 am

I acquired four of these at a show about eight months ago, they all came in individual tubs labelled up as Giant Hissing Scorpions. The seller didn't even know what spp they were. Its obvious its a Heterometrus spp but anymore than that I could do with some help please!!

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PostSubject: Re: 'Giant Hissing Scorpion' Heterometrus spp ID help   'Giant Hissing Scorpion' Heterometrus spp ID help Empty9/9/2013, 5:48 pm

Hello.

Unfortunately I can't see these pics either.

That being said, I'm pretty good at identifying Heterometrus, and if you'd like, you can email the pics to me for a faster response.

collin@scorpion-forum.com

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PostSubject: Re: 'Giant Hissing Scorpion' Heterometrus spp ID help   'Giant Hissing Scorpion' Heterometrus spp ID help Empty9/9/2013, 7:16 pm

I can't see the pics either... Hmm... Hissing scorps are usually Opistophthalmus spp though. Is it black like an emp or is it more brown/tan/mahogany?
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PostSubject: Re: 'Giant Hissing Scorpion' Heterometrus spp ID help   'Giant Hissing Scorpion' Heterometrus spp ID help Empty9/9/2013, 8:05 pm

TheKevil wrote:
I can't see the pics either... Hmm... Hissing scorps are usually Opistophthalmus spp though. Is it black like an emp or is it more brown/tan/mahogany?
Actually, my emperor scorpion hissed a lot. If he bought it as a "Giant hissing scorpion", it might be a Heterometrus swammerdami, they hiss a lot too.

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PostSubject: Re: 'Giant Hissing Scorpion' Heterometrus spp ID help   'Giant Hissing Scorpion' Heterometrus spp ID help Empty9/9/2013, 8:21 pm

Interesting. I've never had an emp hiss before. Didn't know they did. I've always seen the Opistophthalmus as the ones marketed as specific "hissing scorpions". Here's another good thread...

http://www.scorpion-forum.com/t4601-list-of-hissing-scorpions

Btw... Oropher, how much did you pay for your scorpions? If it was not terribly much and they end up being H. swammerdami, you got crazy lucky. They're normally a pretty penny.
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PostSubject: Re: 'Giant Hissing Scorpion' Heterometrus spp ID help   'Giant Hissing Scorpion' Heterometrus spp ID help Empty9/10/2013, 12:29 pm

It seems none of my picture in any post have worked so I'll try again....

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Let me know if the pictures are showing now!!
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PostSubject: Re: 'Giant Hissing Scorpion' Heterometrus spp ID help   'Giant Hissing Scorpion' Heterometrus spp ID help Empty9/10/2013, 12:42 pm

Worked that time. Black telson Smile Either H. laoticus or H. petersii probably. I just learned from IDing my own on a separate thread that petersii have these tubercles on the arms. Can you get a good close up picture of the chela and the segments of the arm by it so I can see the patella?
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Okay great, cheers for the input. I should be able to get one, as soon I do I'll post it up!!
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PostSubject: Re: 'Giant Hissing Scorpion' Heterometrus spp ID help   'Giant Hissing Scorpion' Heterometrus spp ID help Empty9/17/2013, 5:33 pm

No need for another pic, it's 100% Heterometrus petersii from the granulation on the carapace.

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PostSubject: Re: 'Giant Hissing Scorpion' Heterometrus spp ID help   'Giant Hissing Scorpion' Heterometrus spp ID help Empty9/18/2013, 1:47 pm

Thank you very much!! If you dont mind me asking where do you come across such info stating the differences between the sp?!
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PostSubject: Re: 'Giant Hissing Scorpion' Heterometrus spp ID help   'Giant Hissing Scorpion' Heterometrus spp ID help Empty9/18/2013, 5:26 pm

The Heterometrus ID key is number 15. http://www.science.marshall.edu/fet/euscorpius/pubs.htm


Granulation Keys:
 


You may also want to look through Alex's caresheet: http://www.scorpion-forum.com/t8256-asf-heterometrus-longimanus

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PostSubject: Re: 'Giant Hissing Scorpion' Heterometrus spp ID help   'Giant Hissing Scorpion' Heterometrus spp ID help Empty9/23/2013, 1:50 pm

That first link is awesome thank you!! And that care sheet is superb!!
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