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PostSubject: emp scrip gave birth! HELP!   5/11/2013, 12:49 am

hey guys! I've been super busy so its been awhile since i posted! GUESS WHAT?! i look under my scorpions hides and finally one of them gave birth! what do i do now? i had 3 emus 2 females one male, they killed the male RIP KATO! the females are in different hides in the same tank, what do i do now?! help!!! the photos are on my phone, and i foget how to post photos can someone help? please! thank you! if you are in the US i will sent you a baby just pay shipping as soon as they are ready to ship. THANK YOU!
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PostSubject: Re: emp scrip gave birth! HELP!   5/11/2013, 1:12 am

i posted a picture on the FACEBOOK page, i can count at least 12 on her back. she is in a eco terra cage with 1 female.
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PostSubject: Re: emp scrip gave birth! HELP!   5/11/2013, 1:35 am

Move all other scorps out from the tank (not the mum) and keep it warm and humid. It'll be awhile till she's done.

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PostSubject: Re: emp scrip gave birth! HELP!   5/11/2013, 1:45 am

Congratulations! You might want to move the other female to a temporary enclosure to give mom a the babies a little space...but only if it can be done easily and with minimal disturbance. Don't dig her out. If she is staying in a different hide it is okay to leave her there. Keep it warm and humid like you have..."if it's not broke, don't fix it," applies here.

The babies will stay on mom's back until they molt to 2i...they will start to climb down after that and you can carefully move the babies to their own individual containers at that point to more easily feed them head crushed pinheads and let them grow and molt without risk of siblings cannibalizing freshly molted siblings. A tackle box works well, or individual deli cups.

For now just let her be...birth is a tiring process. You could carefully place a head crushed cricket/roach...whatever she is used to as a feeder. Possibly a small water source nearby. She knows what to do. Create the least amount of disturbance and stress till the babies molt and dismount. It is not uncommon for some babies to not make it...mom often can gobble on them, IF it happens at all. Mainly just keep her low stress and undisturbed. Could be at least a week or two before they get to 2i and start to move off. Enjoy the brood and congratulations on breeding a species that may no longer be exported and so easily available! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: emp scrip gave birth! HELP!   5/11/2013, 1:49 am

Did I mention to keep her low stress and undisturbed? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: emp scrip gave birth! HELP!   5/11/2013, 2:44 am

congrats on the babies!
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PostSubject: Re: emp scrip gave birth! HELP!   5/11/2013, 8:53 am

There was documentation of female Pandinus imperators helping the other mothers by distributing food and such.

Do you know if Kato was killed? If so , that may have been because the female did not feel safe with him around, and so she "took care of the problem".
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PostSubject: Re: emp scrip gave birth! HELP!   5/11/2013, 9:54 am

Bayss wrote:
Did I mention to keep her low stress and undisturbed? Very Happy
Imo, this is the best advice that can be given when your female gives birth.
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PostSubject: Re: emp scrip gave birth! HELP!   5/11/2013, 10:48 am

This might help when the young dismount from moms' back:

http://www.scorpion-forum.com/t8029-how-to-guide-to-feeding-young-scorpions
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PostSubject: Re: emp scrip gave birth! HELP!   5/11/2013, 10:58 am

I've got 2 sets of baby emps from a months ago and from 2 weeks ago births. The ones from 2 weeks ago are leaving moms back on their own so I can either leave them with her and let them fend for themselves for food and such or I can separate them individually or keep all the babies together. My concern is knowing who's eaten and who hasn't so I personally like the keep them separate and dote on each one like a first time mother.

But honestly you can just leave them with her forever and let them figure it out.
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PostSubject: Re: emp scrip gave birth! HELP!   5/11/2013, 1:33 pm

thanks guys! Kato was found dead in the cage about 2-3 months ago, so awhile before she gave birth. i think they bullied him to death. :-( he was the nicest out of all of them. thanks for the link and the advice!
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PostSubject: Re: emp scrip gave birth! HELP!   5/12/2013, 5:22 pm

thankyou !! thank you thank you ! the other female is in the other hide box, the cage is an eco terra 18 inch by 18 inch and 12 inches in height. the female who just gave birth chose to stay in the hide that is closets to the water, and it is humid and warm. after the babies come off the moms back what do i do?
thank you again!
r u in the US? if you want a baby, just pay shipping. thanks again!
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PostSubject: Re: emp scrip gave birth! HELP!   5/12/2013, 6:14 pm

After the babies come off the back, you can either form a communal tank, or separate them into different enclosures. If you decide to make a communal tank, make sure there is enough food for everyone.
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PostSubject: Re: emp scrip gave birth! HELP!   5/12/2013, 9:48 pm

I'm in Canada and I have 23 of my own baby emps and 3 adults. That's after trading 10 of them for other scorps with a local dealer.

Some people on the site are going crazy for emps. So sell them off at like $8-$10 plus shipping. You can make some money and play off the ridiculous people who are buying up every emp they can find.

But if you really want me to take one I'd be honored.
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PostSubject: Re: emp scrip gave birth! HELP!   5/13/2013, 12:40 am

Congrats!
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PostSubject: Re: emp scrip gave birth! HELP!   5/18/2013, 10:12 pm

thanks guys, i would give you one, i just don't know the regulations for shipping out of country, if u cn find that out id be happy to send you one, free u just pay shipping or if ur going to take a road trip loll have buyers like crazy so its not an issue getting them all sold. just for your advice its worth not making 10 bucks and plus i know he/she is going to a good home. what do i use as a water dish for the babies?
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PostSubject: Re: emp scrip gave birth! HELP!   5/18/2013, 10:14 pm

also in addition to the water bowl for the babies question, when are they ready to go to their new home?
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PostSubject: Re: emp scrip gave birth! HELP!   5/18/2013, 10:16 pm

I take the cap from a water bottle drop some fish aquarium gravel in there and then kinda push it down into the substrate so they don't have to climb to find water if they want.
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PostSubject: Re: emp scrip gave birth! HELP!   5/18/2013, 10:17 pm

once they venture off their moms back they are ready to go.
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PostSubject: Re: emp scrip gave birth! HELP!   5/18/2013, 10:20 pm

They will drink from the substrate or off the mist droplets on the side of the enclosure/deli cup...no need for a water dish for the babies. You can take them out after they molt and start climbing off of mom's back. Get a blacklight Razz
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PostSubject: Re: emp scrip gave birth! HELP!   5/18/2013, 10:22 pm

The bottle cap with gravel works to, as Yames said.
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PostSubject: Re: emp scrip gave birth! HELP!   5/19/2013, 9:47 pm

thanks a bunch!
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PostSubject: Re: emp scrip gave birth! HELP!   5/19/2013, 9:49 pm

Are they still on mom's back?
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PostSubject: Re: emp scrip gave birth! HELP!   5/20/2013, 12:52 am

they are off the mothers back!!! :-) they are all on the same hide as the mom, do i have to worry about the crickets eating the babies?
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PostSubject: Re: emp scrip gave birth! HELP!   5/20/2013, 1:54 pm

I would be worried since crickets are bigger then them now. I would say head crush large crickets and toss them in around 3-5 at a time. Mom will be very hungry now. Mine moms ate 6 crickets in 2 days after the babies came off. My 23 babies eat every last scrap of the 3 or so crickets I've thrown in head crushed every day since I put them in their own critter keeper.
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